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Name: Jack Hammer () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 18:48:56

E-Mail: jhammer@rosenet.net
City and State: Oakland Oregon
Class: 68
Message: To Pat and anyone else with Teenager problems. "Grandchildren are the only Legal way to get back at your kids"

Name: Pat Underwood () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 18:15:17
E-Mail: onefamilyhistorian@socal.rr.com
City and State: Hawthorne, Calif
Maiden: Lawndale High
Class: 1963

Message: Talking about teenagers is a sore spot with me as I have raised six of them. My brain is twisted and short circuits on a regular basis. Four of my boys have graduated and are out on their own, but they do call once in a while to see if I have any extra money. ?What is extra money and does it really exist?? My daughter is a senior at St. Bernards and my number five son (Louie) is a sophomore at Hawthorne High. Last week they suspended him for not wearing a white tee shirt in P.E. They deprived him of two days of academics for a white tee shirt. In my day I would have gotten a swat on the fanny and sent on my way. Don?t interfere with their education. So here I am at school giving the staff of Hawthorne my two cents worth and I noticed they were talking to me just like my kids do. Teenagers also cause teachers to go brain dead. I give up, I hate kids. Fear not parents I don?t like your kids as much as I don?t like mine. LOL. So here I sit strumming my index finger up and down over my lips, making that silly sound a one year old makes with my eyes crossed. I can?t go out into the public cause someone will call police on me saying there is a lunatic that just escaped the loony bin. I need drugs, I need a hug or even adult conversation.
Hey Pat, May you live long enough to be a giant burden on them all.

Name: Jessie () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 15:06:03
E-Mail: ithasn'tchanged
City and State: LA
Maiden: Corral
Class: Still the Wanna Be...
Message: Hey John, I was just wondering...why is it you post some feedback messages with the persons photo and others you don't?
It mainly depends on if I have time. Of course if I just put your picture up and you add another feedback, there's no sense in adding your picture again.

Name: Cindy Whittaker () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 14:33:53
E-Mail: cindycwhittaker@msn.com
City and State: Gig Harbor WA
Maiden: Whittaker
Class: 1976
Message: Because this page deals with our teenage years, here's some info that might explain a few things! Our parents and grandparents always tried to tell us this (in a way)and we try to tell our teenagers but now there is scientific proof we really weren?t all growed up yet! Or as Sharon B says, it was our ?learning stage.? Exactly! ?In charting the brain's normal development through adolescence, scientists discovered the brain's anatomy apparently keep on evolving far more than ever thought, which may help explain why can teens act the way they do.? ?The images show one of the last parts of the brain to complete this maturation process is the prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain responsible for planning, judgment and self-control. [Adolescents] are capable of very strong emotions and very strong passions, but their prefrontal cortex hasn't caught up with them yet. It's as though they don't have the brakes that allow them to slow those emotions down," said Charles Nelson, a child psychologist at the University of Minnesota. Researchers say this may help explain the often irrational behavior of teenagers: the mood swings, and the risks they're often too willing to take. And psychologists believe this new understanding of the adolescent brain ? and its limitations ? can help parents recognize there are some behaviors teenagers cannot easily control.? To read the full article, go to http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/MedicineCuttingEdge/brain030818_teenage.html. There?s even a new book out if anyone?s interested: The Primal Teen: What the New Discoveries About the Teenage Brain Tell Us About Our Kids by Barbara Strauch. I?m ordering it as a Christmas present for the single father of a teenager girl! PS: I'm getting married Nov 2004 and will be Cindy Nutt... how appropriate is that for me? Both as a teen and yes, still today... as my friends & family will happily attest!
FACT: A swift kick in the keyster cancels out all brain science.

Name: Debra () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 13:17:39
E-Mail: Debratmcg@aol.com
City and State: Lancaster, CA
Maiden: Lee
Class: 72
Message: Hey John, just so you know ... I do consider 50 middle age because I plan on being around 100 + ...
(I'm still in my very late 40's for now until next month).
God bless y'all Cougars ...
Sheesh, KIDS!!!

Name: Cindy Colby () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 13:06:25

E-Mail: cindycolby@att.net
City and State: Laguna Hills, CA
Maiden: Maxson
Class: 63
Message: John, Besides being one of the nicest people I know, you are also a grade A class act. You have a way of taking care of things in such an excellent manner. Thanks a bunch and keep up the good work. By the way, I have never been to Pinks and am looking forward to the next run, please don't change it to Tommy's. Happy Holidays to all of CT, and especially to JB1 and JB2. Cindy
Well thank you Cindy. I don't know where that came from, but will take all the compliments I can get. Happy Holidays to you and yours and we'll see you at the next Ctown get-together, where ever it may be.

Name: KIRK C. GREASBY () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 11:38:55
E-Mail: mskcg@ci.manitou-springs.co
City and State: COLORADO SPRINGS CO.
Maiden: Greasby's little brother
Class: 1976
Message: Hello to all, At the present time the Temp. is 11 degrees with blowing snow, I've been reading "AS THE WORLD TURNS IN COUGAR TOWN" Feedback. Cant we all just get along! Okay enough, I just wanted to say HI to Susie King Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and say hi to Sharon. WADE, your present is in the mail. This year I'm sending you snowballs since you won't be here for Christmas, Look for the dripping package. Merry Christmas To all . K.G.

Name: mike colbern () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 01:57:54
E-Mail: mcolbern@cox.net
City and State: phoenix,az
Class: 1973
Message: to susan king and john baker,the jig is up.as per my personal e- mail to susan about stirring things up a little bit,i wound up going a little to far. even though our graduating classes were in alignment ,John sorry yours was just a little bit earlier but that doesn't matter.i'm happy to see the family you have created not only on your own personal level,but the respect of people that may have never known you personally especially me, which was only a short and fleeting moment at the last reunion.susan i quit using russian hands and roman fingers a long time ago as i found out that it had become quite a common phrase.and as to my flirting prowess or pick up lines i'd like to hear more,as an old dog i can still learn.so if it is important in your dr.phil's top 10.i suggest that you find another #10 as it may really be much better than mine.but if it isn't i must warn you i am not the originator of the aforementioned pick up line i'm sure i plageurized it somewhere down the line.the best one i can think of now is when i'm at the grocery store and really need to know what temperature i need to bake a potatoe and how long.i know how long it takes to microwave one but really don't know the time or temperature in a conventional oven.

Name: Lori King () on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 at 00:38:40
E-Mail: lolo5071@aol.com
City and State: Thousand Oaks, CA
Maiden: offspring of S.Bierman-King & L.Stone-King
Class: 1998
Message: Hi Everybody! My name is Lori King and I am the only daughter of Larry Stone-King (class of '72) and Susan Bierman-King (class of '74). I am writing in hopes that friends of my dad will send him a Happy Birthday message in honor of his 50th BIRTHDAY. I know he'd love to hear from voices of the past...this will certainly be the theme of his party Friday night. GENTLE Harassment is acceptable and encouraged. His big day is Friday, December 19th. Wish him well at larryk@kingdomexpress.com or call him at 805-432-0495. Thanks for all your help. Happy Holidays to all and special thanks to John for using his website to find my dad's old friends.
Hi Lori...... Happy Birthday Larry and I'm sure your dad's friends will be happy to send him birthday wishes.

Name: Armand Vaquer () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 23:37:37
E-Mail: AMVaquer@aol.com
City and State: Tarzana, CA
Class: 1972
Message: Congratulations to Dean Morris in celebrating the 11th Anniversary of his 39th birthday! The rest of us from '72 will have to wait until next year to celebrate ours.
There'll be a few 50th anniversary milestones to remind us of our ages. 1954 was when "Them!," "Creature From The Black Lagoon" and "Godzilla" first hit the screens. Other 1954 events include:
Hi Armand, and thanks for listing every event that ever happened in 1954, and I know you meant well, but I can't possibly format that list. BTW, the rules of the Feedback page state that you can't go out and copy and paste the entire works of Shakespeare on this page. You have to type it in. How about going here to read the rest of Armand's Feedback.

Name: carol shaner () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 20:53:35
E-Mail: misscaroll@aol.com
City and State: san bernardino
Maiden: shaner
Class: 70
Message: I heard the fire in San Bernardino last month burned what was left of Santa's Village. I hope it's not true and they are really trying to reopen.
I called their number earlier today but no answer.

Name: Raymond Smith () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 17:38:37
E-Mail: Kawabunganorth@juno.com
City and State: Portland, OR
Class: 1981

Message: Just like to share some great time I had last month with a dear and very close friend of mine. Even though I was a Senior and she was a Freshman. Even though she was CUTE but I was taken. Even though the years have passed and we still remains great friends, she will be truely a great dear friend of mine. Her name is Diana "Hantgin" Oach. She lives about 340 miles south of me (Medford Oregon area) and was up north (Portland Oregon area) visiting and taking a class so I let her stay with us at our home. Seems after 4 days we still have yet to catch up to good ol' times let alone feed on the "NOW" times. No matter how long it's been or how far you live, seems like yesterday our hearts are still kids. Di, I love you girl! Thanks for the friendship. Lastly John, how I pray for thankfulness and the blessing of this website. I swear you should be blessed with a Nobel Peace Prize for having this website. Thanks dude!
Thank you Ray.....

Name: Pat Underwood () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 15:56:17
E-Mail: onefamilyhistorian@socal.rr.com
City and State: Hawthorne, Calif
Maiden: Lawndale High
Class: 1963
Message: John, the name of the street in Inglewood was or is Regent Circle. My Aunt and Uncle Darl and Stan Estes used to live there and yes we did make the trip each year to see the lights the residents put their hearts and souls into. If you remember the one house on the block that never put up any lights, my Aunt and Uncle lived next door. It seems like the only kid on the block to play with was Lee Aaker, if you could catch him at home. His mom had him on a short leash and was always calling him home to find out where he was. Those of you that still live in the area might want to go there this year because it?s still beautiful at Christmas time.

Name: Walter Holt () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 14:19:18
E-Mail: wholt48@yahoo.com
City and State: Garden Grove
Class: 66
Message: FYI Cougars....Virus Alert...For those who are not using your virus protection programs...If you receive an e-mail that appears from microsoft telling you to "use this security patch immediately" do not open it up...The attachment will say "patch.exe", It contains the w32.dumru.mm virus. My virus program just picked it up on an email sent supposidly from Microsoft.
Been getting those for months. Thanks Walter....

Name: Enza Nicocia () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 13:06:30
E-Mail: antiquenza@aol.com
City and State: Hawthorne, CA
Maiden: waybetterthanyouraveragedate!!
Class: 72
Message: Elizabeth Estrada~ What a lovely, charming story of your momma and her precious great granddaughter. I agree with your sentiments on 'giving with love, and receiving with joy.' That's truly what Christmas is all about for me.
Dean Morris~ Your pick up lines regarding the basketball game and pizza must of worked on me, because I remember accepting that date with you. I think that date is what got me interested in B-ball and the Lakers....THANKS! If only you weren't so shy/quiet around me, and had this charming personality back then.....perhaps things might of turned out differently?? :P
Joseph Mailander~ I don't think we know each other, but I really enjoy your writing style. Please keep them coming. You certainly have a way with words.

Name: Walter Holt () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 12:43:40
E-Mail: wholt48@yahoo.com
City and State: Garden Grove
Class: 66
Message: Happy Holidays Cougs! ...Well Tis the season ...Once again the tree is decorated...The lighted Dickens Christmas Village is on the entertainment center. The outside lights are up...And the presents wrapped and under the tree...Least we forget those overseas who wont be home for Xmas...Ah the memory fails me of my favorite places of yore to go watch the lights...There have been so many through out the years. I do remember as a child my absolute favorite was when we would go to Santa's Village up near Lake Arrowhead to see Santa. I heard they were going to re-open it but haven't been back up there recently to see if they have or not. John thanks for keeping this site monitored so it is place for remembrances and comradery. SURFS UP!...(even tho I'm down to one board since one is in repair from having someone drop in on me on an 8’ wave, tearing one of my fin boxes when I nailed him.) COWABUNGA COUGS
Hey Walter, Great memory, Santas Village. Hope they reopen real soon as it was a fun place to take the kids.

Name: Sharon MacDonald () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 12:29:53
E-Mail: smacd63@hotmail.com
City and State: Sullivan, Illinois
Maiden: Badger
Class: 1963
Message: Christmas decorating was always fun. One year my mother nailed the wooden Christmas tree stand to the floor to help keep the tree from tipping over on us. She never told my father that she had done it and when he tried to pick up the tree to take it out for the trash pick-up, he almost got a hernia! Fa-La-La-La La! Happy Holidays to all in Cougartown!
Great story, Sharon, and Happy Holidays to you and yours.....

Name: Kell () on Monday, December 15, 2003 at 11:41:42
E-Mail: rainrainrainmyfeetaresoakingwet.com
City and State: wetlands usa
Class: 67

Message:I'm going to talk about Christmas Lights! Hey Christmas lights, I remember as a kid we would hop in the old olsmobile rocket 88 and drive around looking at all the lights..I know we went to some very fancy streets either in Haw. or Ingle. My Dad had made a "Merry Christmas" sign that hung outside our house every holiday season..He was so proud of that sign! It was always a fun time to help put up those outside lights..Does anyone have any fond memories of their outside lights or where they went to see the lights? Kell
Regent St in Inglewood was the place when I was growing up. Lee Aaker of Rin Tin Tin fame lived on that street and his was one of the decorated houses.

Name: Amelia Tercero () on Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 17:04:54
E-Mail: terceromela@aol.com
City and State: lawndale, ca
Maiden: Tercero
Class: 1986
Message: Hello Everyone (committee), I totally missed the 2001 reunion! I was wondering when and lost contact (been busy). I have run in to some of you and just recently in to more of you. Work has kept me busy including the return to school to complete my Bachelors, and currently now pursuing my Masters.
Look Forward to being there next time around and I wish everyone Happy Holidays!

Name: Cliff Hitchcock () on Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 13:33:34

E-Mail: Desertmustanger@aol.com
City and State: Palmdale
Class: 1973
Message: Couldn't resist the "best pickup lines" topics. I used to have some great ones, however when it came time to deliver them, they tended to come out something like the Beatles singing I wanna hold your hand in German. Many times I took a deep breath and said something like "gloob glub menkey goo bee Huh"?
7 years ago I attended a party at a restaurant in Las Vegas and spotted a woman I wanted to meet, so I asked her to dance. She replied that there was no music and I said "yes there is" and we danced. We have been married for 6 years last November 4.
Now THAT'S a pickup line!!

Thanks Cliff....

Name: joseph mailander () on Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 13:29:06
E-Mail: joseph_mailander@yahoo.com
City and State: Inner City, Los Angeles, CA
Class: 1975
Message: John, I know you are quite behelden by PINK'S these days, as any sensible Angeleno might be--but I'm wondering--What About TOMMY'S? Any chance of a Cougar Nite transpiring in the precinct of Beverly and Rampart? I did a Tommy's run the other day--something I've been doing periodically, meds permitting, since the Ford Administration--and, paying my usual attention to the odometer, as all obsessive compulsives inevitably do, I find that my own domicile is a scant 3.1 miles from Tommy Coulax's fine and reputable establishment, where the lines aren't half as long as they are at Paul Pink's place, and where the chili is just as artery-hardening, perhaps even moreso. In my own family, John--(by the way: I LOVE YOU MAANNNNNNN)--Pink's and Tommy's were equally venerated. But indeed, since I moved to Hollywood in 1985, I've actually preferred Tommy's...think about it John, venturing into the Extreme Inner City...how courageous...you would certainly nab me and Lily fer shure at such an excursion...and, as we learned in Ray Garza's sixth periode Latin class, Fortes Fortuna adjuvat (Fortune Favors the Brave)...(well, we also learned that in Konnie Krislock's Kougarstaff Klass, fifth period, too). Congratulations to all proud military men and women past and present on the capturing of Saddam, from an Official Inner City UltraLiberal yet; and, speaking of Latin and endless green mimeographs: Pax et navi poti--Joseph
Hey joseph, I have nothing against Tommy's save for all the veggies on their burgers. (You won't find a lettuce leaf within a 100 yards of Pinks)
I guess it's about time for a Pinks.... er Tommys Run. After Christmas or better yet, after the new year football games, we'll plan a trek into the inner city jungle and see if we can't get a hundred or so Cougs to join in. See you then....

Name: Susan King () on Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 12:14:21
E-Mail: sueking18@aol.com
City and State: Thousand Oaks, CA
Maiden: Bierman
Class: 1974
Message: Ahhhhh Mr. Colbern: It looks like you STILL have the ability to liven up the area. While I do think that you were somehow teasing, the read on your email came across as mean-spirited and extremely degrading to me. WE both know that I was not loose but most of the folks in CT could not figure that out. I will apologize to you for bringing up the subject in the first place as, perhaps I should have put it all into context by describing the place and time and why, in the world, it has stayed with me all these years. I am sorry to hear about your recent health issues and I gleaned from your post and your message to me that you had some type of epiphany about your real purpose on Earth. It is likely that you do; but unlikely that it involves me.
I don't want anybody to feel badly about posting in CT - it is a place for ALL Cougars and all are encouraged to find their place here. It's about going home again, reliving and coming to terms with the foibles of our youth, AND that of our fellow Cougars, rekindling friendships and loves and sometimes it's about forgiveness. Releasing ourselves and others from the guilt or shame we might carry from some event or mistake that we made so many years ago when we were in our "learning" stages. We hope that we have grown enough that we don't make those mistakes anymore and that others understand that those we made long ago are not testament to who we turned out to be after all. I have my own burdens to bear about those things and I hope that others don't feel that they owe me for anything; heck, those were some of the moments that truly shaped who I am today.
I was NOT easy, although I did, in fact, fall for Alan Nelson's line about going to the Christmas Dance and have never regretted that. I was naive enough that I COULD have fallen for Joe Mailander's line about a costume for Halloween (he's just so suave) and I was swept up enough by you, and my friend, Cindy Young by Mike Scott that the four of us went to a 3 Dog Night concert in 1971 where the "event" about your line occurred. Frankly, I think it was a few weeks later that I figured out what the heck you meant. At the time, I just brushed you away from me and we all laughed. Don't have a clue WHY I remember that, but always have. Dr. Phil says we all have 10 major events that shape our lives; do you suppose that you are one of mine??
Thank you to all who defended me and my honor - DZ, your levity was perfectly timed; Dan, your barb well aimed; Joe, 'nuff said; Alan, always a sweet memory; John, defender of the values that created this site and a big hero of mine; and baby Sis, who rallied to my defense in exactly the fashion that I did to hers when we were kids. I love you all.
And now, back to the regular program......
Thanks Sue and as Webmaster of Cougartown I will add, this will be all that is heard on this subject. Try to fuel this fire, and it won't be published here. This website IS for the Ozzie and Harriet lovers among us. It's for the "Remember When" crowd and that's the way it will stay.
Thanks to all for being here, and if you'd prefer a more modern, new millenium format, it's your choice to move on to another website.

Name: mike colbern () on Sunday, December 14, 2003 at 05:59:16
E-Mail: mcolbern@cox.net
City and State: phoenix,az
Class: 1973
Message: TO JOHN BAKER, MAYBE YOU SHOULD LEARN FROM THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE POSTS. TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD KEEPS CHANGING AS WE DO.IF YOU ONLY HAVE A VIEW OF ONE SIDE OF LIFE.THEN TRY SOMETHING NEW AND TAKE A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW.QUIT THINKING THAT LIVING IN THE PAST MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYBODY.IF YOU ARE SO SET IN YOUR WAYS THAT YOU ARE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS.I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.BECAUSE YOU HAVE MISSED MANY EXPERIENCES THAT HAVE PASSED RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES.WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH THIS WEBSITE.I KNOW I WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PRODUCE OR PROMOTE THIS.YOU TALK ABOUT TAKING IT UP A NOTCH,WHY NOT LET PEOPLE SAY WHAT THEY WANT W/OUT YOU ALWAYS HAVING TO HAVE THE LAST WORD.A LITTLE NOVEL INTERJECTION AT SOME POINT ISN'T WRONG.BUT DO IT IN A POST OTHERWISE YOU DO NOTHING MORE THAN GET THE LAST WORD AND CONTROL THE CONTENT OF THE SITE.SINCE YOU ARE RECEIVING MONEY TO DO SO I SUGGEST YOU PLACE DISCLAIMERS REGARDING SPAM.IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD,THE F.T.C. ACTUALLY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO USE THE F WORD ON TELEVISION AND RADIO BROADCASTS NOW.WAKE UP!!! IT'S THE 21ST CENTURY THE YEAR 2003 IS ALMOST OVER.IT'S NOT 1959 LIKE IT SHOWS ON YOUR H.H.S. I.D. CARD.OUR KIDS OR GRAND KIDS POINT IT OUT TO US EACH DAY.THE DAYS OF OZZIE AND HARRIETT NELSON ARE OVER.REMEMBER WHEN RICKY DIED IN A PLANE CRASH AND COCAINE APPEARED TO BE A MAJOR FACTOR.I DON'T REMEMBER ANY OF THE EPISODES THAT SHOWED THIS REAL SIDE OF LIFE.
Because of this feedback, I've received lots of email stating that this kind of Feedback be eliminated from Ctown. That's what will happen. Thank you all....

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