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Name: EL ROJO () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 21:33:36
E-Mail: I-DY-HO
Maiden: YOU KNOW
Class: 60
City and State: KUNA, I'VE BEEN SPELLING IT WRONG(HOME OF THE KAVEMEN)
Message: John, Disneyland should never have been a planned trip for HHS after the class of 58 got done, almost destroying the entrance of either "Jungleland or Frontierland", according to my bro. Dave and several friends. But the class of 60 had its share of moments. Such as the Hawthorne Mayors son and several others being arrested for throwing "cherry bombs and or firecrackers off of the tram". Silly boys, they were waiting for them at the other end. Duh! Then there were those who did get soap and food coloring into the park. But it was administered from the waterfall of Tom Sawyers Island. A few prominent athletes and people of renown. A couple of very prominent singers if I remember right. It was a sight to behold about two hours later, foam of every size, shape and color, about a foot to maybe two feet tall all around the moat. Damn that was "bitchin"! But other than that, we were basically harmless. But I do remember not feeling well that day and was expected too work at my job in a butcher shop that evening. I called my Dad (he also worked there) and said I was sick and couldn't come in. Well as most of us know in those days, his response was not welcomed at all. You get your butt to work, sick or not. But the tripper was, I came down with the measles that night, as I also had a date with the Ida Queen, but had the typical miserable fever and the like. She thought I was going to Die, but you can never DIE at a drive in movie, only the stars do. Damn, can you imagine how many people I could have infected in that brief 12 hr period? Meat market, Disneyland, drive-in movie (have to have popcorn sick or not) Yes sir, yes maam, how can I cut that meat up for you! Ralph! MAY THE COUGAR BE WITH YOU. EL/IDA.COM.
So you too had a "You're never too sick to go to work or school" parent huh. I thought my mom ran that parents group.



Name: sherrie moyers () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 21:30:04
E-Mail: rsmoyers@earthlink.net
Maiden: driggers
Class: 1976
Message: Hey Sloey, If you want me to meet you at Pinky's, you're going to have to give me a little more notice. I live in Arizona and work full time, so give me at least a 3 week warning!
Hey Sloey, Where's Pinky's??



Name: Kathleen Griffin () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 21:09:07
E-Mail: CT_Helpdesk@yahoo.com
Maiden: Nix
Class: 74
City and State: Wilmington, CA
Message: I noticed that David Barboza hasn't posted in months. Does anyone know what happened to him?
Someone asked how to attach pictures to yahoo email. At the bottom on the "Compose Email" form, there is a space for attachments. Click on the Edit Attachments button and follow the instructions that present.
Just a note to everyone, as year end approaches you want to make sure your computer is Y2K compliant. If you need help, why not email the Cougartown Helpdesk? (CT_Helpdesk@yahoo.com) I'll do my best to point you in the right direction and hey, it's free :)

Thanks Kathleen



Name: Gary () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 19:54:10
E-Mail: Swafford
Class: 1980
City and State: Athens, Tennessee
Message: We never got anyone banned from Disneyland, but our class from Sepulveda Elementry managed to get the whole school district banned from the 6th grade camp we went to. The name escapes me, but after we were through they never allowed another class from Wiseburn School District to attend. I even got my picture in the HHS paper with the story. I believe my counselor was Mike Love. Later classes went back to Hawthorne Youth Camp.
And thanks to Ingrid Larson for the bringing me a copy of the paper.



Name: John Baker () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 19:27:02
E-Mail: jb1@cougartown.com
Class: MCMLXII
City and State: Lomita, Calif.
Message: I just wanted to say that the T shirt sales are coming right along I almost have my money back and thought that since Christmas is coming, it would make a nice stocking stuffer. We're trying to get this money for our Cougartown Scholarship fund, so if you're thinking of getting your hubbie an electric razor, how about a Ctown T shirt instead. Norelco already has enough money to fund a scholarship and Cougartown doesn't. Thanks to all of you for your selfless acts of generosity. Because of you, the Alumni, Nyman Hall is almost restored, the newsletter fund is growing, and now the T shirts are going to help an HHSer on to College.
Thank you all for your support.
Click here to go to T shirt page.



Name: Steve Fraser () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 19:04:38
Class: 1966
Message: To: Richard Hanson.. Bill Cone left the HFD in the early 60's, long before my time and went to the LAFD. After that we lost track of him. The only person who may know of his whereabouts would be Sheldon Bliss. Sheldon probably graduated about the same time as you and Bill. He's on the alumni list with EMail included....Good luck



Name: Jerry Miles () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 18:47:11
E-Mail: jfmiles@pacbell.net
Class: 66
City and State: Fair Oaks, California
Message: John,
In ‘66, Grad Night was at Disneyland. Which, in spite of our best efforts to be banned forever from the Magical Kingdom, was the site of '67's Grad Night too. Some of the more rowdy people tried to sneak some booze in there in the same manner as the Palladium, but you had to be careful. That mouse had a real mean streak.

There's another one for the Feedback Page. Every class claims to have done something at D-land to get the next class barred, but I don't think it ever happened. We put "food colored Tide" in the submarine pond from the skyway buckets. That didn't do it. Anyone else??



Name: Jerry () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 18:42:34
E-Mail: jnsrig@webtv.net
Message: Mike...Yes its me. Bobbie (igney) live's in S. Carolina. The car wasn't a Merc. but a all show all go '48 Buick. The reason you got to "tag along" with the "big boys" was you were a "cool" little kid. You also went to school with my wife Sharon (Cantor). Thanks for remembering me, hope to see you sometime.
Jerry, "All Go 48 Buick"??!! Don't think there IS such an animal.



Name: deano () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 17:24:11
E-Mail: DKarels@msn.com
Class: 65
City and State: Tustin Ca
Message: all this talk about the palladium party, when did grad night change to dland because my bros (class)? yr name kenny karels got the group kicked out of dland for rocking the jungle cruise off the track, i know class of 65 went back to dland. sure was great to see some old names in the pages like weathers, conway, hawthorne & bertelson. hey pieboy hows it going with the recoop. send me an e.



Name: Bob Rierdan () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 17:13:04
E-Mail: printer@cheerful.com
Class: 61
City and State: Mountain View, MO
Message: Here's a Friday Hawthorne Trivia Question: The Patmars Drive In at Imperial & Sepulveda - What became of the drive in building?
Bob

Man, you got me on that one. I bet Denny or George Key knows.



Name: Karen () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 14:26:09
E-Mail: karen.h.kusumi@boeing.com
Maiden: Hare
Class: 66
City and State: Anaheim, California
Message: King Darlin,
By the time we graduated, all night parties were at Disneyland. I remember taking a school bus there and back, and being dateless as usual, I spent the evening walking around with Mary Kean...:o) Which brings me to ask Teri and Becky where were you...:o).

So there were no Palladium parties in 1966 (we did Disneyland on Senior Ditch Day). How about 1965?? Any of you 65ers remember a Palladium Party?



Name: Johannes de Silentio () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 13:35:15
E-Mail: jdesilentio@hotmail.com
Class: 75
Message: John, as you are now in the habit of posting inflamatory yearbook pictures next to contributors, I am obliged to put forth a mere doppelganger of my true self in order to participate here with any degree of security. You asked about the Hollywood Palladium. The Stones played the Palladium in '72, if you can believe that. I saw many concerts there, including the Ramones in '78, but most notably Iggy Pop in 1980. He came out on stage and immediately threw the microphone stand into the audience, nearly impaling me and clipping Watterson. After the fabled "Winter of our Discontent" soliloquy for which he is known, he did a fifty-minute Louie Louie, and then moved via a subtle but exciting cord progression into Nightclubbing. He was even better at the Stardust Ballroom a little east on Sunset. Iggy used to climb into the rafters there, they hung only about two feet above the stage. The Stardust Ballroom is now a Home Depot, a part of the Dow Jones Industrial Average, replacing Sears; Iggy has had a few top 40 hits along the way. Everything becomes something else; metamorphosis is the only continuum. I've even washed my hair a few times since high school.
jds live from Hollywood

So uhhhh.....did your class have a grad night Palladium Party or not?



Name: Richard Hanson () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 12:46:25
E-Mail: reh2469@aol.com
Class: 56
City and State: Simi Valley, CA
Message: To Steve Fraser. When I left Hawthorne in 1957 for a hitch in the Air force, A good friend and neighbor of mine was in the Hawthorne Fire Department. His name was Bill Cone. Do you know what became of him.



Name: Debra Lee McGregor () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 11:40:13
E-Mail: mcgregord@la.lancaster.k12.ca.us
Maiden: Lee
Class: 72
City and State: Lancaster, CA
Message: Msg. to Karen Bertelson - What a cute smile you had in your picture - I'm sure you still have a great smile. I tried to E-mail you and it was returned as unable to reach you. I do remember your brother Lance. On Feedback, between pages 150 and 171 (I'm going back one at a time) - there's a little "Karen Cougar" picture - pretty cute (I'm not kitten). I'll let Melanie know you said hi. I went to her wedding in San Diego last July. She still looks beautiful and is truly in love. This has been one of the funnest weeks I've had with memories galore. God bless ...



Name: Ingrid Larson () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 10:56:02
E-Mail: fdg@earthlink.net
Class: 74
City and State: Long Beach, CA
Message: Karen (Bertelsen) Baker - probably the single sweetest, most genuine, truly nice person that I met in my years at HHS! And she's back here at Cougartown, way cool. Karen, not only were you a considerate, nice, pleasant, thoughtful person; you were popular, too! (How else does one become the Cougar Mascot!) You were such a terrific influence on me, but then everyone in our "Lunch Bunch" was a great positive influence on me in those days.
Oh, I remember being the lone underclassman in that gang, and wondering how I got so lucky as to be included with all you older, cooler folks! Hey, where's Jeff Nathenson these days? Remember when we decided to throw our own Christmas Party in the cafeteria at lunch time? Someone brought a little "Charlie Brown" Christmas tree on a stand. Everyone brought some kind of ornament, and Jeff Nathenson made an aluminum foil covered Star of David that we placed on the top as the crowning glory. There we were, our little circle of friends, enjoying our private little ceremony, complete with gift exchange, right there in the middle of the mayhem of the high school cafeteria. I think we may have even sang some carols. Too much fun!
Thanks for checking in and reminding me of a great group of folks from my past.



Name: Denny () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 10:13:40
Class: 55
Message: EL ROJO...In "54" I think Drag Racing was an elective subject at Hawthorne. Didn't mean to imply that SATAN'S CHERUBS were without sin. One day at lunch time we did something that today would start World War III. We drove to Morningside and they thought we were there to do battle. We told them to wheel out their quickest car and meet us on 120th St. They came down with a warmed over 49 Olds. My Flathead punished it severely to claim the victory for HHS. JOHN B...Our class also had their party at the Palladium. Music was "Les Brown and his band of renown". Most of us had to drop by Emory's Mens Shop to get measured for new duds. Only thing I owned was Levi's and T-shirts.
Leave it to those Sosh's at Morningside to have an OHV V8 in 1954
OK, so we know the Palladium Party went back to at least 1955. Who remembers the Palladium party into the 60's. Right now it was remembered until 1962, but did you 66ers have a Palladium party? Sloey, Myrna ?? This would have been your party on graduation night.



Name: Steve Fraser () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 01:29:56
Class: 1966
Message: To Nancy Montague-- I worked with Mike West on the Hawthorne Fire Department until he left in about 1975. He and Diane (O'Rourke) moved to Oklahoma with their three sons to become ranchers. His sister Joy is still in Hawthorne and as King John said, is on the alumni page. Either under West or her married name of Bliss.



Name: Christine aka blondie () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 01:07:41
E-Mail: carissa58@hotmail.com
Maiden: Penny
Class: 76
City and State: Round Rock Tx
Message: Hi Karen Baker... It must have been your grandfather, because I went to York from 1964 to 1969. I have very fond memories of him. I'm glad to be set straight, I would hate to think that I had such fond memories of a man and not have his name right. ") Thanks so much for the info.



Name: Patty Valencia () on Friday, November 19, 1999 at 01:06:35
E-Mail: pvalencia2@aol.com
Maiden: gottacatchemallpokemon
Class: 1974
Message: Wow. I didn't check in for a few days and suddenly we are in the 170's with bunches of new people - this is grand. Mom V is still talking about her special conversation with Robin Hood. What a flirt, Robin. I'm surprised she didn't give you her pin number! :0)



Name: Ron Dickson () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 22:42:21
E-Mail: ron201@linkline.com
Class: 1967
City and State: Norco,Ca.
Message: John, This is a great site. Saw many names from the past. Where have all those years gone? Told some former Cougars about this site. Jim Norman, John Norman, Pat Williams and my wife Jo Ann Sexton
Ah yes, Judy, Jimmy and Johnny Norman. 120th and Freeman Av. Look forward to hearing from the Normans. Thanks Ron for checking in.



Name: Cheryl Nicocia () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 22:26:22
E-Mail: chernico@cvc.com
Maiden: Christensen
Class: 62
City and State: Keno,Oregon
Message: Hey John, I remember the "Palladium Party". My John had me sneak a bottle of Jim Beam taped to my inner thigh. Yup, those were the days. That was Graduation night. I remember it well. I had the measles. So many, I was the same color as my pink dress. But back then, nothing stopped us. Great night! June 14th, 1962.



Name: EL/IDA () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 22:02:49
E-Mail: I-DY-HO
Maiden: YOU KNOW
Class: 60/61
City and State: KUNA, ID(HOME OF THE CAVEMEN)
Message: John, the Palladium party, was, in itself, a blast. Ida and I started off the evening with a couple of brews at the palacial apt. of B Johnson and Tom Whitener, early "beatnik" and "quasi" modern Coors Can, was the "motif". After that we drove, 56 chevy, 4 door hardtop, (now that car would be worth its weight in gold) that her DAD let us drive and we went to the Tail O The Cock restaurant on La Brea for dinner.

It was cool, here we were, all gussied up, two 17 yr olds in the big restaurant. Myself the Richie Cunningham with Lady Godiva. In fact JJ looked so good that guys were staring at her. They were really pissing me off, but I thought, hey she's mine. We were served by a black man, kind of rotund, but very hip and fun. Well the drink of the house was a tall glass of mixed juice with the same name as the restaurant and alcohol, if you were of age. Well we ordered TWO, and thought that we would get just that, juice. But, he kind of winked at me and said "coming right up sir". Well it wasn't just juice. On to the Palladium we went. And no JB we didn't sneak any booze in there. But as far as the schools involved, I believe it was most of the schools that were considered Centinela Valley schools. But it was damned hard being on the same dance floor as those Moaningside guys. But we had no trouble. After that, about 3 or 4 in the morning, JJ and I drove back to "paddleboard cove" to have a little make out session. Well believe it or not we both fell asleep. When we awoke JJ got her first view of naked surfers changing clothes on the cove. She wasn't impressed with the surfer "geeks"! And that was the end to a wonderful evening and we still live happily ever after. MAY THE COUGAR BE WITH YOU! EL/IDA.

Great stuff Jake. I really don't remember all that much, but I do remember that there were MOANingside people there too.
Here's a picture taken on June 14th 1962 at my house on Cedar Av. right before Joyce and I left for the Palladium. Classy suit and tie huh....
Does anyone remember when the first and or last Palladium parties were held? I know that they were at least 1957ish to at least 1962ish. Anyone??



Name: JIM SLOEY () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 21:38:36
E-Mail: ROBINISMYCOUSINTOOSOIMUSTBERELATED TOTOOCOOLCHUCKANDFRAZMANTOO.COM
Maiden: CINDERELLA
Class: ?
Message: Hey Schroeder a great idea for the 35, lets do a baseball trip!? Or Cavalier, spring time only. What happened to the 76 reunion meeting? Moyers you were suppose to meet John and I at Pink's Tuesday night. Where were you? You didn't want to be in charge now you don't even help. We can't do it all ourselves. Royal Lord how we doing? Rick and Kelly Carden were cousins. Keith since you are now TShirt guru of Vegas why not ship a 1000 to John for resale for CT. Thanks Keith. Always a giver. Call now that you got work. Robin miss you! Degrazia how is your heart? Hope all is well Happy Thanksgiving to all! SLOEY



Name: EL/IDA () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 20:50:12
E-Mail: I-DY-HO
Maiden: YOU KNOW
Class: 60/61
City and State: KUNA, ID (HOME OF THE CAVEMEN)
Message: Denny U. One more thing about the SATANS CHERUBS, Terry Johnson might have coined the name and you guys might have done a lot of good deeds, but your reputation as a bunch of bad "cats" stuck with you. Terry was an especially mean "motha". He used to kick BJ's butt regularly. But he was also the first one that I ever saw that "flipped" a standard 3 speed on the column to the "left side", because you were throwing down and in, instead of right and up. He had "one bad" 57 chevy pickup, that would really haul. I really never new what he had under the hood, but suspect it was a built 283 at the time. The memories keep flooding in. Thanks guys and gals. May the cougar be with you! EL / IDA!



Name: Barbara Duran () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 18:48:34
E-Mail: bjd2354
Class: 72
City and State: El Segundo CA
Message: Debbie Lee, what a nice surprise to see your name, this web-site has been a blast! And Keith Jones, always the "man". Thank you!



Name: John Baker () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 18:23:51
E-Mail: jb1@cougartown.com
Class: 62
City and State: Lomita, Calif.
Message:Does anyone remember the outstanding party that went on in this place? Does anyone have any stories, like trying to sneak a little alcohol into this elite gathering? I remember Joyce got the goods inside. Maybe she'd like to explain how. How many schools were involved in the Palladium Parties? What year did they start and what year was the last Palladium party?



Name: Debra Lee McGregor () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 15:45:58
E-Mail: mcgregord@la.lancaster.k12.ca.us
Maiden: Lee
Class: 72
City and State: Lancaster, CA
Message: Still having great fun reading, responding and getting responses. Msg. to Elizabeth Castanon - Thanks for your message. I told my mom a nice lady from Texas thinks fondly of her and read her your ltr. you sent me. She was grateful. I notice a lot of 65-68 alumni - feel free to send a letter to my brother who grad. in 66. He doesn't have E-mail, but I'll print it and give it to him. His name is Alan Lee, and he used to work at A&W in Hawthorne. God bless ..



Name: Karen Baker () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 14:29:27
E-Mail: bdbkeb@prodigy.com
Maiden: Bertelsen
Class: 1973 if we hadn't moved
Message: Hi to all you Cougars out here. First of all I was reading the listings about the crossing guard at Prairie for York School. Knud Bertelsen (my grandfather) was the crossing guard there in the early sixties, but I don't know the name of the man after him. I also saw notes from Elizabeth Carey Hi! do you remember me Liz and brownie troop 292 and my mom and dad Vey and Niels Bertelsen I remember you and Debbie Hill and the whole gang what a great childhood we all had. Also Hi to Debbie Lee and Melanie and that whole group I remember you all and your moms I think we not only all had York in common but Scouts. Do you remember my folks and my brothers Lance, class of 1965, and Hans Bertelsen, class of 1967, at good old HHS. Hey also to Ingrid do you remember the Lunch bunch at HHS and John Fowler and Steve Deuel and Tracy Flynn and all that . Oh well enough tripping down memory lane for now...Take care all you Cougars out there in computer land



Name: Ingrid Larson () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 12:35:39
E-Mail: fdg@earthlink.net
Class: 74
City and State: Long Beach, CA
Message: John, I hope my last comments weren't taken the wrong way. Your work here on Cougartown has generated so many fond memories, reunited long-lost lovers, re-introduced best friends from bygone days. I was only ribbing you. Any time I need an HHS "fix", I know CT is only a few mouse clicks away. Thank you for your selfless efforts.
Hi Ingrid, Your comments weren't at all out of line. I've had your El Molinos long enough and when I do get settled in, you will be the official CT Royal Scanner Person. I'll let you know and thanks for all your help.
Joyce, I know you want your 59 book back and Tom Bell and Gary Moore, you've been more than generous, as has Gloria Valencia. Your yearbooks are safe and will be scanned as soon as I get into the new Cougartown, as will all the Cougars I've amassed. Thank you all for your patience.



Name: Confused Says... () on Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 11:16:43
Message: Passionate kiss like spider's web... soon lead to undoing of fly.
Confused....like others have been told before you, this is not the "Joke Page". Thanks for understanding


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