Got me runnin'
Got me hidin'
Got me run, hide, hide, run
Any way you wanna let it roll
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah Jimmy Reed
Name: Cal McDougal () on Monday, May 16, 2005 at 05:06:36
City and State: Enterprise, Alabama
Class: 1962
Message: Crenshaw to Prairie is one mile for those walking today. Better plan on 45 minutes walk if you aren't a fast walker.
Name: Baxter Dodd () on Monday, May 16, 2005 at 02:51:37
Email: baxterldo@aol.com
City and State: Riverside, CA
Class: 1957
Message: John, Help me to understand some items I have been reading in these in-depth and lengthy posts that present philosophical/sociopolitical dissertations concerning current demographic transitioning. My question is: is ?stereotyping? using both hands on the keyboard at the same time? I?m working on improving that. And also, I thought "racism" was what went on in the Indianapolis Memorial Day weekend 500 by racers. Hmmm... never mind... Baxter.
No need to explain, Baxter, you understand it completely. Name: LEEROY FELDERRUSTER () on Monday, May 16, 2005 at 00:48:16
City and State: Fayettsvill, ArKansas
Class: 1957
Message: Knows me and alls dem utter dim witted bogits is upseted bys dat lest mark.
Too bad you and yours ain't a race, otherwise I'd be a racist.
Name: Chuck Armstrong () on Monday, May 16, 2005 at 00:30:59
Email: Chuck@ArmstrongConsultingGroup.com
City and State: Orcutt, CA
Maiden: A Beach Boy Minute
Class: 1967
Message: On the way home from friends, my 8 year old daughter (Okay, I had the last one a little late in life) and her friend begged me play Surfin' USA six times on the car CD player. My oldest daughter purchased for me the original blue Pendleton from the album cover where the Beach Boys are on the beach and they're all holding the surfboard. From time to time I take my Stewart board off the wall rack, put on the CD and my Pendleton and play surfer for thirty minutes. My daughter's Dad suffers from temporary insanity at times. I worked at Melody Music as a guitar teacher in the late 60's. One day I came out of the studio after a lesson and there were four or five guys standing around an old, beat up Fender, Dual Showman amplifier. It turned out that it once belonged to Carl Wilson and had been used while touring. I never did find out how it got there, but by the time I finished my next lesson the amplifier was gone. Some guy scored big on that day.
Name: Jasna Penich () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 23:18:45
Email: Penich@aol.com
City and State: Torrance, Ca
Maiden: Begovich
Class: 1976
Message: I found out about the web page from a news letter on my 30 year reunion. I was very pleased to see how well the web page is done. I got goose bumps reading about the teachers. My hats off to the people that put it all together.
Hi Jasna, Thank you and so glad your committee let you know about Ctown. I'm very proud of it, along with all the good Cougs who contribute and check in regularly. Please come back anytime.
Name: Anita () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 23:07:51
Email: anita.m.bell@erac.com
City and State: Fair Oaks, Ca
Maiden: Harmon
Class: 1969
Message: John.....
Cougar sighting? Indirectly I guess. I only heard about this today from my daughters best friend from college who is the cousin of Krista. And she made the connection because when I was babysitting for her a couple of weeks ago I started telling her about this fabulous website.....it is a small world!
So how far are we talking? That is, from the Metro Link Lot to the Dedication site?
From my drag racing days up and down 120th, I would say about a half mile.
Name: Anita () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 22:20:33
Email: anita.m.bell@erac.com
City and State: Fair Oaks, Ca
Maiden: Harmon
Class: 1969
Message: So John.....are you now telling me that they will not be gathering from the Betty Ainsworth Center but only from the Metro Link Lot on Crenshaw & 120th and we are now hoofing it?
Yes, and did you know that we have a common Cougar friend? Bob Reagan in Redding, who I grew up with , well his son Cory is marrying Krista, who I heard you know very well. Is that kind of a Cougar sighting?
Name: Jack Hammer () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 21:51:20
Email: jhammer@rosenet,net
City and State: Oakland Or
Class: 1968
Message: Regarding the latest Ctown controversy, racism is just another definition for hate. Hate comes in all colors and honestly I think my home towns problems are more drug related than anything else. Enough of my limited wisdom See ya
Name: Chris Prewitt () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 21:09:19
Email: cjprewitt at juno dot com
City and State: Fullerton, CA
Class: 1967
Message: John, Looking at the Beach Boys Monument, I wondered who and how many Cougars are planning on attending the dedication? Maybe you could also include any non-cougar Beach Boys fans.
Hi Chris, I've heard anywhere from 300 to 5000 total and I have no clue how many Ctowners are going to be there. If you're a Ctowner, meaning any school from the area, and are going to be there on Friday, please let us know via Feedback. Where are we all going to STAND?? Name: Susan King () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 20:02:26
Email: sueking18ataoldotcom
City and State: Thousand Oaks, Ca
Maiden: Bierman
Class: 1974
Message: Thank you John (and Gordon) for the great birdseye view of the Beach Boys Landmark and of the brick donated by the collective members of Cougartown. BTW, the donations I MADE to the bricks were on behalf of ALL of us here in CT, because I am well aware that this place would not be special without EACH AND EVERY poster. I welcome your thoughts, your remembrances, your diversity and your views. You broaden my world now and help me to recall and appreciate my little world back then. I am grateful.
Thank you Sue for being out there. I do appreciate you.
Name: Walter Holt () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 19:17:04
Email: wholt48@socal.rr.com
City and State: Surf City, CA
Class: 1966
Message: As much as I have been guilty of putting my two cents worth in, I think there has to come a time where we have to ask ourselves if racially oriented stuff is what we want to discuss on this fine site. In the Hawthorne I grew up and went to school in and it didn't matter what the color or nationality of anyone was. If we had a problem with someone it was because of the person not the color or nationality. I have carried that with me all of my life. In closing I will add that for us that attend the functions in Hawthorne now, sure it's different there. But you know what, everyone I attend the people that we come in contact with from Hawthorne now, that are not part of our function, ask us what we are doing and then enjoy being with us while they are there. So let us please get off our soapboxes and keep this site what it was set up by John and is intended for, good memories and making new ones. Just for suggestion the next time someone jams in here with something like this let's just turn our "ignore buttons" on and go on with our normal discussions.
Amen to that.....
Name: haavale tuilautala () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 17:49:33
Email: tuilautala@peoplepc.com
City and State: inglewood/california
Maiden: fonua
Class: 1992
Message: I don't know what to say. I was just curious to see if I can find memories of my high school.
Hi Haavale, Not THAT'S what I'm talkin' about.....
Name: Cal McDougal () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 16:42:13
Email: themcdougals.centurytel.net
City and State: Enterprise, Al
Class: 1962
Message: I lived in Hawthorne from the middle of seventh grade until the summer of my 21st year. After that year the Army and my career helped me select my residence. I did not want to leave Hawthorne, but the fact of the matter is that I chose to leave the City of Good Neighbors (Wasn't it Judy Liber HHS 1962 who wrote that slogan back in 1958?).
One thing I think is important to remember when we observe the changes in a street, neighborhood, or town. Everyone who lives there selected that location as the best place for them at the time.
I believe my parents made a good choice when they moved to Hawthorne. At first they rented a home (a home, not just a house ) then they bought a wonderful home that was far nicer than any place I had ever lived. There were people in our neighborhood of several different ethnic groups. I never visited a home that scared or horrified me, though I was frequently amazed by the cultural differences. I was very impressed with that neighborhood and I am certain that the people that live there today are also pleased to be there.
If I criticize the place that I used to live, then perhaps I have grown too big for my britches. The people that come into a neighborhood are selecting the best place to live. And the ones that move out are doing the same thing whether they are looking for a better job, retirement home on the mountain, or getting away from a neighbor who has loud parties. The neighborhood will change because the people will change, and over time values may change. Change is a constant, it cannot be prevented. So what, I left and I can't go back. Someone I don't know owns the house my parents struggled to afford. That makes me wistful, but my life has moved on and only memories are left of Hawthorne.
So I agree with Mark Twain and say to anyone who thinks that Hawthorne (or any other place ) isn't like it used to be. You are right. "Things aren't like they used to be, in fact, they never were."
John, the Beach Boys Bricks look great!
Cal
Well said, Cal. Everyone's Hawthorne is "theirs". Our Hawthorne is no longer there, but instead of running down todays Hawthorne, which someone else loves, let's just remember our own and keep our memories, whatever the year.
Name: Sandra A. Perez () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 15:43:37
Email: sanna@cox.net
City and State: Encinitas, CA
Maiden: Perales
Class: 1988
Message: Oh Dear God! Here we go again... Listen guys, those of you who want to "save" the culture, language, etc. of the USA, go ahead, but you've got a multitude of them to pick from. Being American does not equal being white, blonde, blue eyed and monolingual English speaking, for Americans come in all colors and languages. So... what exactly is American culture? What exactly are you "saving" from becoming extinct? How exactly do you plan on protecting the borders when the United States is a country regarded as "the Melting Pot" which periodically "invites" immigrants to join the labor force? Your gardeners, nannies, housekeepers, mechanics, cooks, etc. are people of culture. Do you ask them for their citizenship status before you hire them to landscape your yard, care for your children or eat your meal at a restaurant? Do you really care if they are legal when you pay them for their cheap labor and eat that Mexican, Chinese or Italian food? I think not.
On another note, who remembers The Mop Shop in the Boy's Market shopping center? They had an old fashioned Coke Machine in the waiting area that sold bottled soda. That was the only way my mom could convince me to get my hair cut!
Here we go again....and yet you keep it going. How did my lawn man get into this, and BTW, he's whiter than me so it looks like, Sandra, YOU are stereotyping. Let's ALL quit now. PLEEEEZE
Name: BOB FAULKNER () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 14:18:01
Email: UPSBUBBA@HOTMAIL.COM
City and State: GARDEB GROVE, CA.
Class: 1963
Message: REGUARDING, MIKE FROM MESA'S POST. WOULD IT HAVE BEEN BETTER IF HE REFERRED TO HAWTHORNE AS A "CLOACA"?. ELIZABETH, ART AND TERRY, WHY DON'T YOU MOVE BACK TO HAWTHORNE AND TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER??. ALSO HOW DO YOU KNOW MIKE IS WHITE???. WHY IS IT THAT SOME PEOPLE ALWAYS PULL THE RACE CARD WHEN THEY REALLY HAVE NO DEFENSE FOR THE REAL ISSUES? YOU PEOPLE MAY WANT TO GO BACK AND RE-READ MIKE'S COMMENTS. HOW DOES REFERRING TO SOMETHING AS A CESSPOOL MAKE ONE A BIGOT OR RACIST???
Cloaca....isn't that the sex organ of a bird or something like that?
This is becoming ridiculous, devisive and polarizing. Why keep this going? You have to have your Ctown dues paid in full to "spout off" like this. BTW, June is just around the corner. Some have asked how far their dues are in arrears. If you email me, I can tell you. Thanks for helping out, Cougs.
Name: Baxter Dodd () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 13:42:14
Email: baxterldo@aol.com
City and State: Riverside, CA
Class: 1957
Message: OK you guys, At Ease!? There must be something in the bottled water or in the air this time of year. Hey, --to change the direction of the conversation-- does anyone remember a little pizza shop that was located in that town south of Rosecrans where the 405 crosses Inglewood Ave (or maybe it was H Blvd)?? It was on the west side of the street facing east. They advertised it as ?Chicago Style Pizza.? The pizza was square, as opposed to the traditional round pizza, and loaded with garlic, onion, and every other breath-altering spice and seasoning. Took a week to clear it out of your system to be able to get close to people again. It was great! but it quickly went out of business, circa ?60-?63 . And yes, I felt guilty going out of town for a Pizza? Baxter.
Hey Baxter, I don't remember the place but it sounds like something I'd go out of town for too. Name: David Kelly () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 11:43:34
Email: dkelly@ppld.org
City and State: Colorado Springs
Class: 1977
Message: Hawthorne has changed. So has the South Bay and most of the United States. Mike was a bit harsh in his opinion of the changing face of Hawthorne, but he has that right even if you disagree. That's what I love about our great nation: Freedom of Speech. It is my opinion that our nation is suffering from a bad dose of political correctness and pandering politicians. In the last 20 years, it seems that immigrants (legal and illegal) are less likely to assimilate into our communities, learn English, and adopt American culture. That may be their choice, but I don't have to agree with their choice or accept their desire to not become participants in American culture. I agree with Neil. We need to solve the serious problem of illegal immigration, secure our borders, and protect American culture; otherwise, the great experiment of the United States as our founding fathers had envisioned will be gone forever. Liz, even your ancestor, President and founding father John Adams, suffered from a changing United States. Adams, a wealthy elitist, was fearful of the political power of the common man (farmers and recent immigrants). Adams' party, the Federalist Party, enacted the Immigration Act, which changed the residency requirements of immigrants from five years to 14 years. The Alien and Sedition Acts were also enacted during his presidency. The Alien Act allowed the President to deport dangerous aliens without a trial. The Sedition Act made it illegal to criticize or ridicule the President or Congress. Newspaper editors printing anything bad about the President (a Federalist) or Congress (controlled by the Federalists) could be jailed. John Adams was our first one-term President who lost to another founding father, Thomas Jefferson, due to the Federalist Party's attacks on free speech and our First Amendment rights. Ask a recent immigrant or new citizen what rights they have granted to them by the U.S. Constitution . Ask them if they understand the value of the Bill of Rights. You may not like what you hear. It's up to us to help save the United States and educate its citizens on the importance of our freedoms. I welcome a changing face to Hawthorne and all of America through cultural assimilation.
So like, what the .....does this have to do with memories of OUR Hawthorne?
Name: Anita () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 11:16:19
Email: anita.m.bell@erac.com
City and State: Fair Oaks, Ca
Maiden: Harmon
Class: 1969
Message: John,
Got up this morning, started a pot of coffee and turned on the computer. I first went to Daily Breeze.com to see if there were any new articles about the Beach Boys Memorial Dedication, from there clicked on to City of Hawthorne - calendar of events. And as you have noted there will be no vehicle access to the dedication site. Courtesy shuttles will be available and departing from the Betty Ainsworth Center.....and here is where there is a slight discrepancy. CT lists the address to be 3701 W. El Segundo Blvd and they list it as 3901 W. El Segundo Blvd. I know that is only a couple of blocks diffrence, but this wild and crazy 'Cougar' is flying into LAX that morning just to attend this 'once in a life time event' and just wanted to make sure my directions were straight.
And if anyone hasn't checked out http://www.beachboyslandmark.org yet ~ they should.
One final note to my exceptional fellow classmates of '69.....if I can manage to take one day off from work to fly down from Sacramento.....won't you try and make the effort to do the same? I realize for some that just isn't in the cards, so for you guys ~ I will be there representing you in 'true Cougar spirit'.....with my slightly too big CT tee shirt on..... Just imagine if every HHS Alumni showed up that day wearing their CT tee shirts? What an incredible class reunion that would be!
Thanks Anita, anyway it's the BIG RED BUILDING that says Betty Ainsworth Center on it. Name: Art Lamere () on Sunday, May 15, 2005 at 08:11:09
Email: same
City and State: Bettendorf, Ia
Class: 1973
Message: Well good Sunday to all and a belated happy mothers day to all the fine Mothers from HHS. Anyway I was going to reply to Mike can't call him Mr. maybe a few other words anyway I saw Liz reply and the smoke coming out of her ears that was all I needed to read. You tell him LIZ anyway if we all were to look at the tree (family) you would be surprised at what you will find. Heavenly Father made each one everyone the same except the skin tone big deal. I will say I hope that Mike lives in the middle of the desert with no contact of any kind. Well John thanks again for the site to which we can reconnect with the past.
Art
Hey Art, Good Sunday to you too...
Name: Chuck () on Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 12:05:55
Email: Chuck@ArmstrongConsultingGroup.com
City and State: Ocutt, CA
Maiden: I'm a Soul Man
Class: 1967
Message: When I think about my early Hawthorne school days, I realize that I learned to appreciate the differences between people at an early age. In grade school they didn?t separate us from those who were challenged by life. We each took turns helping the blind kids, like taking them to the restrooms, reading to them and helping them play kick ball and tether ball, or just spending time with them on the school yard. Those were important lessons for me.
I also learned that the cultural differences between us were something wonderful to experience, especially when it came to food! I knew if I hung out around Artie Verduzco?s or Frank Lucio?s house long enough I?d get something to eat!
I had the good fortune to play in a local soul band in my intermediate and high school days, and we were the epitome of the diversity we saw in the South Bay. We were Hispanic, Philippines, Middle East, Scottish, English, German, Welsh, Italian, and Japanese.
Mike from Mesa, you?ve been away too long. You?ve chosen to forget the life lessons you learned in Gardena. You think that what is different about you NOW makes you better than others. It doesn?t.
Name: Elizabeth Aleccia () on Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 11:58:04
Email: elizabeth.aleccia@gmail.com
City and State: Redondo Beach, CA
Maiden: Estrada
Class: 1969
Message: Chocolate? I'm not chocolate. My great-great-great grand daddy, on my mama's side, is John Adams, the second president of the great United States. Well, maybe I'm chocolate covered on my daddy's side, but then you would focus on that, bless your heart. And for your information, The large majority of Hawthorne residents are legals...silly man.
Name: Neil Andersen () on Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 10:47:44
Email: sumerset@aol.com
City and State: Dallas, OR
Class: 1962
Message: Elizabeth, Don't try to give me a tablespoon of your white guilt trip, or your chocolate heart, on our insensibility to problems of the world. Keeping our borders, language and culture without guilt is the only way to save the great United States of America. To ignore the truth of the problem is to be part of the problem, the solution is to solve the problem. Illegal is not a sick bird.
Name: Terry () on Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 08:11:54
Email: zapallen6@aol.com
City and State: Salem Or(miss Hawthorne)
Maiden: Smith
Class: 1974
Message: Right on Elizabeth! Mike How insulting was that. If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything. I miss Hawthorne, no matter how it is now. Hawthorne is my home town. Still waiting for that apology. Better yet don't come back.
Name: Elizabeth Aleccia () on Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 08:11:15
Email: elizabeth.aleccia@gmail.com
City and State: Redondo Beach, CA
Maiden: Estrada
Class: 1969
Message: You're right Tom. "Dim-witted bigot" was a bit strong and if I had re-read that post before I sent it ....hmmmm...nope...I still would have sent it. I do love you guys. DZ
Name: Tom Shelley () on Saturday, May 14, 2005 at 02:13:53
Email: tomshelley@earthlink.net
City and State: Torrance, CA
Class: 1962
Message: Now, now Liz. Don't get your back up. Lets not get another fight started here. I think if Mike had re-read his post before he sent it, he may have toned it down a bit. How 'bout it Mike, maybe "cesspool" is a bit strong huh? How about "different" different is a good word. Of course Hawthorne is different than it was when I grew up there. But then I guess the whole world is a different place than when I was a hot shot 14 year old.
Mike, talk to some of the old folks around Mesa sometime. I'll bet they will tell you how the old town just isn't what it used to be. Not since all those idiots from California started moving in. I don't remember Progressive Plumbing but I do remember Blackburn Plumbing on Inglewood Ave. and about 136th. I worked at Jim Thompson Mobil Service and one of the Blackburn Kids came in one day having trouble with his car, ('49 Ford Coupe). I offered him $75 for it and got it. Spent 10 bucks for Plugs, points, etc. and had it running like a top before dark. I ran the wheels off that car.
So you're saying the "Good Old Days" were better then?
