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Name: Ron Householder () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 21:29:13

Email: r8896077@earthlink.net
City and State: agoura Ca
Class: 1960
Message: Merry Christmas to all and a Happy new year
Hey Ron, Glad to see you're still with the group. Merry Christmas to you and Marion. Hope to see you two at Cruise Night on February 12th.

Name: Armand Vaquer () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 19:47:17
Email: AMVaquer@aol.com
City and State: Tarzana, CA
Class: 1972
Message: The American Red Cross is not one of my favorite charities. They charged servicemen for coffee and donuts back in World War II (while other groups gave them out free) and then there was their shenanigans following September 11.
OK on with HAWTHORNE TALK....

Name: Sharon Branigan () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 19:32:59
Email: srbranigan.srb@verizon.net
City and State: Thousand Oaks, CA
Maiden: Bierman
Class: 1976
Message: The Salvation Army was able to reunite my mom and her dad after 30 years of Grandpa being "missing." I will always make donations to SA. The Red Cross is another fine organization. I suppose they all do the best they can with what we give them. The purpose of Christmas isn't gifts, cookie bake exchanges, or even charity. It is a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. Everything else is just icing on the cake.

Name: Alan Nelson () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 13:59:26
Email: boatcop@boatcop.com
City and State: Parker, Az
Class: 1973
Message: I pick my Charities carefully, and although the Salvation Army does wonders for needy people worldwide, they do nothing in my area, except collect money at Christmas time. We've had major floods in our rural areas over the past few years, and reached out to anyone and everyone who could help the dozens of, often poor, low income, displaced families out. Red Cross was the only group that provided much needed food, clothing and temporary housing through local "foster" families. The Salvation Army flat turned us down. I have no guilt whatsoever shopping at Target, nor do I feel bad about walking by the bell ringers they bus in from Phoenix to beg money from our community while they refuse giving back to it. Give to whom you choose. That's what's great about America. Our freedom to do whatever we want with our hard earned cash, and spend it or give it away, any way we please. Merry Christmas and hope and prosperity for the New Year to all.
Merry Christmas Alan......

Name: Elizabeth Aleccia () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 13:55:55
Email: dzlizzy31@hotmail.com
City and State: Redondo Beach,CA
Class: 1969
Message: Does anyone know if the word 'holiday' came from 'Holy Day'?
Middle English holidai, holy day

Name: Enza Nicocia () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 13:49:21
Email: enico72@aol.com
City and State: SoSunny, SoCal
Maiden: time to move to Canada??
Class: 1972
Message: Along the same lines, I read this morning that a legislator in Minnesota wants to penalize poor people for smoking, on grounds THEY'RE driving up health costs. Republican Marty Seifert, chairman of the House State Govt. Finance Committee, said he is introducing legislation to impose HIGHER premiums, co-payments or economic sanctions for poor people getting state assistance/health and welfare benefits who didn't quit smoking. PAALEEEEZZZE! What's next? Punishing the poor for not making over 18K (national poverty level)??
YES, that 18K thing should be a punishable offense.

OK, we are WAY off the subject, and I caused it, SORRY. Back to Hawthorne Talk.

Name: Keith D. Jones () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 12:10:27
Email: cmi50@yahoo.com
City and State: Kona, Hawaii
Class: 1976
Message: I don;t know about the post office but the SA is at every grocery store, Walmart and BigK here in Kona. They don;t bother me, but I think it is very boring what they do. I saw one of the guy at Safeway the other day sitting there ringing his bell and smoking. That was interesting. And today I heard from a few old friends and relatives. My cousin Carter emailed me along with my old buddy David Kaintz, Greg Staffon to say Happy Birthday and old flame. Mele Kalikimaka Aloha

Name: Elizabeth Estrada () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 12:00:42
Email: dzlizzy31@hotmail.com
City and State: Redondo Beach,CA
Maiden: Estrada
Class: 1969
Message: There are 35 million people in the United States who are below the poverty level. Millions of children wake up hungry everyday right here in our own backyards. I don't care if it's the Moonies, the Jews, the Muslims, Christians or Gay's for whatever....if they are helping put food in the tummies of our children and clothes on their backs then I say....Thank God!

Name: Alan Nelson () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 10:35:55
Email: boatcop@boatcop.com
City and State: Parker, Az
Class: 1973
Message: Re: The Salvation Army and Target (among other entities). These stores have a policy about soliciting money or donations on their property. Target used to make an exception for the SA, but were threatened with lawsuits by every other organization that lives on donations. Target, almost all major malls, and Government Agencies (Like the USPS) prohibit any solicitaion. If they allowed the SA, they would have to let everyone beg for money. Imagine if you went to the store and were accosted going both in and out of the store by Moonies, Hare Krishna, and dozens of other charity organizations, not to mention the "will work for food" crowd, in addition to the Salvation Army. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd avoid the place. Anyone can contribute to the SA and other causes through their websites and other places. Target isn't singling out the SA or any other group, nor are they anti-Charity, giving millions of dollars to various charities, including the SA, every year. They're just doing what their patrons asked of them.
I guess next it'll be the Girl Scouts, Little League fundraisers, and "register to vote" people. This is the EXACT problem we're talking about with the ACLU and cutting CHRIST out of Christmas. If it doesn't fit EVERYONE get rid of it. It might offend a Muslim, an Atheist, or a card carrying Communist Whale. GET REAL, the Gays have parades and you don't see the ACLU shutting them down because Heteros are offended.

Name: Art LA Mere () on Saturday, December 18, 2004 at 06:55:31
Email: artlamere@msn.com
City and State: Bettendorf Ia
Class: 1973
Message: Christmas lights my dad would put them up every year and some one would remove them until he did what your dad did, John. We lived on 137 place between Ramona and the bl. The funny part is they would break the bulbs right in front of the house or in the driveway if we were gone. Anyway the target store here when asked about the little red buck and the freezing person collecting money and somtimes gold coins are classified as solicitors and they are not allowed so targets stand on this if we let them do it then we have to let everyone that wants to do it. I feel this totally different thing They are collecting money to help the needy. My Son said he had heard that they are going to lose about 8 to 10 million from the red bucks country wide because of the stores not letting they collect. Happy Hoildays to all and all a good morning. off to work I go. Art

Name: Baxter Dodd () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 22:59:58
Email: baxterldo@aol.com
City and State: Riverside, CA
Class: 1957
Message: Seeing the references to Hawthorne Community Hospital made me remember when my mom was in there for an operation. It was October ?62. At that time I was about 2 hours away on a SAC base that was preparing to lock down during the Cuban Missile Crises. After I got off duty that evening, I made a run for it to see her and, hopefully, make it back in time. It was late when I arrived at the hospital. The nurses waived the visitor rules so I could spend some time with mom. She had come through the operation ok and I found that, being typical mom, she and the other ladies and the staff of caretakers on that floor were more concerned about me and others in the military than they were about their own situations. I drove like a fool and made it back to the base on time. Thank God for praying mothers, and the HCH nurses. Baxter

Name: Jim Sloey () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 22:47:08

Email: hartje@msn.com
City and State: SOLVANG, CA
Class: 1966
Message: You go Marsha! It's MERRY CHRISTmas here in Solvang. Our church is singing Christmas Caroles in the CITY PARK tomorrow night. And BTW we don't interfere with the atheists holiday, don't mess with ours! It's April 1st if you were wondering.
Well said my bike riding friend. Isn't April 1st LeeRoy Felderruster's birthday?

Name: Armand Vaquer () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 22:29:47

Email: AMVaquer@aol.com
City and State: Tarzana, CA
Class: 1972
Message: John, your comments on the secularization of the Christmas season hit a nerve. Besides all the things you've cited, there are other things that are happening. For instance, The Salvation Army has been banned at Target and other stores. My daughter works for Macy's and they aren't supposed to say "Merry Christmas" to customers, just "Happy Holidays." Thankfully, people are starting to notice all of this and are waking up and fighting back.
Also, Dean Morris is right. Concentrate on collegiate sports until the pros get their homes in order.
Thanks Armand.......Come to think of it, I haven't seen the Salvation Army at my local post office this year either. What's going on???

Name: EL ROJO () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 20:13:48

Email: I-DY-HO
City and State: KUNA,(home of the KAVEMEN) ID
Maiden: WEWEREALLMAIDENSONCE
Class: 1960
Message: I said it once...don't need to say " Barry the steroid" no more. No one buff's like that in a normal world at 40 plus. Not even McGuire. Or myself, for that matter:-) Go hammering Hank and Roger Maris. MAY THE COUGAR BE WITH YOU! Jake N Jude. Oops, I forgot to say, go HHS Basketball. CIF Champs this year!
How bout those Trojans??

Name: vicki () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 19:54:47
Email: vnielsen@cox.net
City and State: laguna hills, ca
Message: Georgia, I remember your dog, didn't you guys have a german shepherd? I still see Bill Bowden quite a bit. Went to his daughter Robin's wedding with my sister Kathy. Mark and his wife and daughter came down from Seattle for it. I love memories of Christmas. All the houses on Hindry Place had lights up usually. Happy Holiday and a wonderful New Year
MERRY CHRISTMAS Vicki......Who are you?

Name: Paco () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 19:19:52
Email: doo4usc@cox.net
City and State: LF
Class: 1961
Message: A little Christmas memory...Around 1955 my mother bought a "Watchtower" or was it an "Awake", anyway we all became Jehovahs Witnesses, Oh, except Catholic father..Oh boy was that a Christmas! My mom says "No Christmas tree this year"..An hour later we hear this truck outside, it was like Ty Pennington, "Duran Family your tree is here!!" Biggest damn tree I'd ever seen! The Lakers made me feel better. Merry Christmas to all..
Merry Christmas Paco...Great story

Name: Dean Morris (aka Andy Rooney) () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 17:27:58

Email: dmorris@stanfordalumni.org
City and State: North SF Bay Area
Maiden: No More Boys of the Summer
Class: 1972
Message: Pro-sports in general have been boring for some time with the exception of the playoffs when all teams crank it up to the next level. Seasons are too long, money and free agency are bad for the game, steroids have tarnished performances and records, expansion has diluted the talent pool, and on and on... Give me Gehrig, Dimaggio, Mays, Snyder, Koufax, Gibson, Russell, Cousy, West, Unitas, Starr, any day. They excelled individually AND knew how to play as a team. Kobe Bryant and Barry Bonds are the epitome of today's superstars and I won't pay $20 let alone $80 to go see these bums play anymore.
Paco, the only answer is to turn to collegiate sports until the pros clean up their act. And that won't happen until the public gets wise and stops going to see these overpaid, egocentric crybabies and attendance and revenues drop off.
Fight on for USC! Go Cal Bears! UCLA fight, fight, fight! Stanford, you sucked this year.
Yeah I gotta say that if Babe Ruth hadn't trained on hot dogs and BOOZE he might have hit 914 home runs. Koufax quit baseball because he had to take Cortisone shots before he pitched. And Barry thought he was taking medicine for his arthritis?? PLEEEEZE!!!!!

Name: Barbara () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 17:02:38

Email: BarbaraDuran@aol.com
City and State: El Segundo
Maiden: Duran
Class: 1972
Message: On behalf of me and my entire family...Merry Christmas to all!
Thanks Barbara, and Merry Christmas to you and your family.......

Name: Bobby Ray Jensen () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 16:27:41

Email: Rjensen@satco-inc.com
City and State: Greater Los Angeles 90064
Class: 1971
Message: I just had an HHS memory that I thought I would share. It was Christmas time in 68 or 69. I was in the Marching Band and we were to march in a Christmas parade. I was sicker than a dog but I marched all the way. When we were finished Fred Morgan took one look at me and said ?Go straight home and boil some water for tea. Put 2 spoons full of sugar in a tall mug and squeeze in some lemon, put 2 shots of Bourbon in and add the tea and drink it down. Go straight to bed and cover yourself up. It?ll fix you up." Well, Bourbon was about the only thing alcoholic in our house and the bottle was at least 5 years old. I did exactly what Fred Morgan said to do.
I felt great the next day. To this day I still enjoy a little Bourbon during the holidays. Thanks Mr. Morgan.
SAY.....I'm feeling a little under the weather right now. I don't have a lemon and am all out of tea. Maybe just the Bourbon'll work.

Thanks Bobby Ray.....

Name: Marsha Russell () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 15:43:37

Email: MRussell90277@aol.com
City and State: Redondo Beach
Class: 1964
Message: I need to vent.............I was listening to the radio this morning and heard that a town in New Jersey is having "illegal" Christmas caroling tonight and a town in Florida has had all of the city Christmas trees taken down. Excuse me but I thought this was a free country that we are living in. Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus and if you celebrate it or not, or believe it or not, that is fine with me but for those of us who do........... don't take away our rights! A local city here just had an "employee appreciation" party last week. They were not allowed to call it a Christmas party and NOT even a holiday party. When selecting the music to be played at the party they were told Christmas songs were off limits. Sooooooooo for those of you who don't believe, then Happy Holidays but for me and many others it is Merry Christmas!
I was wondering if anyone ELSE was feeling the squeeze. A Church in Denver wanted to enter a float with their choir in the "Holiday Parade", but were turned away, only to have the Holiday Parade committee allow some sect honoring dead gay Indians. Now I guess that's fine if it's the DEAD GAY INDIAN SEASON, but it's the CHRISTMAS SEASON!!! What happened to honoring the birth of Christ?
President Grant signed Christmas in as a federal holiday and now you can hardly say the word, "Christmas". In schools, it's not Christmas vacation anymore, it's Winter break. It's not Merry Christmas any more, it's Happy Holidays. I don't know if anyone has noticed but I'm wishing everyone a Merry Christmas this year, It doesn't matter if you're a Buddist, a Sikh, or an Atheist. Christmas is the holiday honoring the birth of Christ. Our forefathers celebrated it, and I'm gonna do the same.
Thanks Marsha for bringing it up.......

Name: Dawn () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 14:15:15
Email: taztocute@verizon.net
City and State: Lakewood, CA
Class: 1963
Message: Happy 21st Anniversary to my husband, Bob Stevenson Class of 63.
Love your wife, Dawn

Name: Bud Rhoades () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 11:55:35
Email: bud.rhoades@fullmerinc.com
City and State: BelmontShores
Class: 1974
Message: Paco I couldnt agree more. No wonder I've become more of an Angel fan. The Boston parking lot attendent is showing he is not capable nor does he really have the money to keep competitive in todays game. I have given up on the NBA as its turned into a bunch of uneducated gang bangers who have no respect for anything but themselves. The NFL is close behind with the over the top showboating that goes on after a basic tackle. The only sport that remotely resembles a professional operation is baseball. I watch more college sports now,and golf. I have given up on the Dodgers.

Name: James Armour () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 09:51:18

Email: Orcaarmour@Charter.net
City and State: Shell Beach,CA
Class: 1970
Message: Hey Paco, if it wasn't for Vin Scully, I would have stopped watching Dodger games long ago. In sports it's all about the money. Thats what I love about Christmas, you can focus on something more uplifting than money (Or Cougartown!). Happy Holidays!
Merry Christmas James....

Name: Baxter Dodd () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 02:13:55

Email: baxterldo@aol.com
City and State: Riverside, CA
Class: 1957
Message: Aluminum Christmas Tree: I had an uncle who lived on 134th street near Lemoli. He was always the first on the block to get whatever was new. In the ?50s he bought the first aluminum tree in the area but did not get the color light wheel until later. Ignoring all the warnings he decorated it with the old type color bulb & socket string of lights. Every now and then the aluminum ?foliage? would find its way down between the bulb and socket. It gave a whole new meaning to the term, ?live tree.? Kids and cats would walk way around that thing. I got zapped by it and I was old enough to know better. It sure was pretty though. Baxter
A few posts back someone was talking about stealing Christmas bulbs from outside strings.
Dad had that problem one year, so he cut a piece of wire about 4 inches long, stripped the insulation back and wired it to the hot side of the string, letting the stripped off end hang down around the bulb. Only did it on a few bulbs, waist high. Never had another problem with stolen bulbs.

Name: Kell () on Friday, December 17, 2004 at 00:16:26
Email: surfbabe@charter.net
City and State: Englewood,OR
Maiden: wowbutchisreallygettingold..phew!!!
Class: 1967
Message: HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROBIN HOOD DEC.17 19!!

Name: Howard "Paco" Duran () on Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 21:23:46

Email: doo4usc@cox.net
City and State: LF
Class: 1961
Message: A little venting, I've been a Dodger fan from the beginning. I will never listen or watch another game again!! The Lakers are getting close to boycott, no Kings..Thank God for USC..
Yeah USC AND Pacos Pics......

Name: Gary Bickers () on Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 19:32:17

Email: garybicdds@aol.com
City and State: PVE CAL
Class: 1963
Message: The Christmas memories are great. Here's one that only a few of us Cougars got to have and was directly related to HHS.
When we got a new basketball coach from Mira Costa we figured it would be business as usual for the basketball team. Preseason and tournament games, a nice break during Christmas then the league games would start.
* Toby got to HHS and when school let out for two weeks we started practicing about 8 hours a day 6 days a week. We went in the gym at 8:30am and came out, or in some cases, escaped at about 4:30pm.BR> Now I can't watch basketball on TV for 3 hours without getting tired; but it sure was fun back then.
Have a relaxed holiday.

Name: Keith D. Jones () on Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 19:19:03

Email: cmi50@yahoo.com
City and State: Kona, Hawaii
Class: 1976
Message: I know allot of you are into Muscle Cars. I found this link below. This guy is a great cartoonist and specializes in muscle cars. Check it out he might have you kind of car on there. Plus he only sells prints for $10 as far as I can see. Anyway thought it would be kind of neat. Also, anyone out there have any hands-on info on the H2 Hummer. Might be getting one of these. I like them cause they are plenty big without being to big. Plus over here there are alot of places to take them. So if anyone out there has one you can email me your reviews. Mahalo and Mele Kalikimaka http://www.vincecrain.com

Name: Patty Saville () on Thursday, December 16, 2004 at 14:12:52

Email: pvalencia5@cox.net
City and State: Laguna Beach, Ca
Maiden: Valencia
Class: 1974
Message: First, I just want to say how nice it is that I actually have to scroll down quite a few years before I hit '1974' on the 'Class of' question on the feedback form! Merry Christmas Cougartown! I love reading about everyone's Christmas/Holiday stories. Whenever this time of year rolls around I picture my sister Gloria and me in our hooded coats (mine plaid, Gloria the princess in Red) sitting on Santa's lap at Sears. (Our mom worked at Sears so that's where we saw Santa). All six of us kids would just play 'I spy' with the different ornaments hanging from the tree, while listening to Johnny Mathis or Andy Williams records. I still remember the smell of new dolls on Christmas morning, but nothing beats riding a shiny new bike or roller skating on new skates on Christmas Day!
I was a little different I liked roller skating on sidewalks. Nice to know you're still alive, V5, and haven't forgotten us commoners down here in the South Bay. Tell Peter and Allie John says hey and if you feel like slumming, come on down for Cruise Night on the 12th of Feb. Bring Michael too, as I'm STILL not sure he exists.

Hey, all kidding aside, you and all the Savilles have a Merry Christmas.

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