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Name: Tim Helble () on Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 17:01:50
City and State: Columbia, MD
Message: I have to go with Keith's picks for best HHS jock. From a professional success standpoint, nobody comes close to Mike Scott. He won the Cy Young award, struck out 300+ in one season, made the N.L. all-star team I believe more than once, made the cover of Sports Illustrated, and was such a dominating pitcher that he was scheduled to start 3 games out of a 7-game playoff series. It was always a unique feeling to see on national TV a guy who was in some of your grade school and HHS classes. I remember how Mike, when a teacher like Mrs. San Juan (4th grade) made him do something he didn't like, would just kind of let out this long, drawn out "Ssssssssssssss" noise to show his disgust. Then some 20 years later, on T.V. I see his manager come to the mound to take him out of the game and it looks like Mike was saying the same thing! And how about that S.I. cover in the mid 80's showing Mike in his garage with a welder's mask and a blow torch, about to "work" on a baseball held in a vice. What a classic! Mike Colburn (also HHS 73) was another good one. He was in the White Sox organization - I remember hearing on KNX one night how he knocked in the winning run(s) with a triple. My cousin Bob Madden (who also threw 95+) played with him in the minors for a while.
I forget what the question was now, but if it was HHS best athlete, and you're going to throw in Cy Young award winners, then you have to mention Richard Henry Dana, HHS 57, USC, and San Diego Chargers? Hall of Fame offensive tackle Ron Mix.....at least for an also ran.
Name: JIM SLOEY () on Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 13:09:31
Maiden: GOOD STUFF
City and State: The Strand
Message: The only World Series no hitter was 1956 against the Brooklyn Dodgers by Don Larsen and it was a perfect game, nobody reached base for the Dodgers. The world series that Jim Raines is referring to was I believe 1963 against the Yankees when Sandy set the record for most strike outs in a World Series game, later broken. As you may know the Dodgers swept the Yankees in 4 games in 1963. The catcher that caught all of Sandy's no hitters was indeed Jeff Torborg, who incidentally caught a no hitter when he was later traded to the Angels; the pitcher was ... Nolan Ryan.
Name: JIM SLOEY () on Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 10:20:00
City and State: the strand baby
Message: Well if you had any doubt that we really do ride, check this out select todays date at 6:35 am and as Ed McMahan would say "here's Johnny!"
Not very convincing but it really is us.
Name: Carl Rilling () on Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 05:57:18
City and State: orygun city oregon
Message: Sandy Koufax pitched 4 no hitters in his short career. Never in a World Series. Victims were New York Mets in 62 San Francisco in 63 Phillie in 64 and Chicago in 65. A safe bet would be to say no Dodger pitcher has ever pitched a shutout in World Series play. Bonus points. What catchers caught those four no hitters. And John, this is a HHS response as we were allowed to have a radios on in class during the world series.. Lets get a Dodger Dog
Hey Carl, I'll say it was Jeff Torborg who caught the majority of them. That from a guy who saw Koufax pitch often in the 60's.
Name: Kathleen Griffin () on Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 04:34:37
City and State: San Pedro, CA
Message: I've been lurking around but seems everytime I went to post something, Feedback was on vacation. Oh well. Just want you to know, I'm here a watching. I've been off work since Christmas with a ruptured disk. I'm having Back surgery Number 4 on Monday the 15th. If you have written for help and I haven't responded, I apologize as I haven't been online as much as I usually am. Sorry I missed Cruise Night John, I will try to make the next Cougartown event. Someday I'll be brave enough to actually talk to people in person!
Hey Kathleen, You ARE missed (also, where has bro Gary been?). Please let us know how your back surgery goes. Hope to see you, the hippy, and the Chevy at the next Ctown function.
Name: Dan Johnson () on Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 03:08:31
City and State: Prarie & Cordary
Message: Hey Keith, ever catch James Solis? He was the right-handed equivalent to Tracy Turner when I played Aviation Little League. I faced Solis, Turner and Staffon. Staffon was by far the fastest. Elsewhere here I told the story of Staffon giving me the indication that he was going to throw a knuckle ball and then jamming a heater past me -- the only time I ever feared for my life on a field of play. (I also saw Mike Scott and John Welch pitch for Hawthorne National Middle League and Aviation respectively -- they brought it too -- but not like Staffon)
Name: Dale Craig () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 18:38:14
City and State: Hawthorne Ca
Message: cougartowners howdy: Ijust want to say that Dodgers are surprising me they have a winning streak going winning four in a row with two japanese imports Nomo and Ishii and good defense I still don't like the Dodgers but they give the Giants there first defeat of the season but the Tigers of Detroit are 0-8 with another defeat losing to the White Sox 8-5 the Tigers will lucky to win 50 games this season Good Luck Tiger fans chat with you guys later Dale "Dodger Hater" Craig
Name: Jim Raines () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 18:27:37
City and State: Salt Lake City, Ut
Message: Early Hawthorne memories is what it's all about. Does anyone remember the year that Sandy Koufax pitched a no hitter in the World Series? What team did the Dodgers play that year? My Grandfather would have Alex the mailman (118th st. and Sundale) come in the house and watch the game every day during the series and hand him a tall glass of lemonade. I never saw a series with so much passion as that one. Jim Raines (Lanny)
Hi Jim, That never happened.
Name: Robin () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 12:56:18
Maiden: Just a "Fan"
City and State: RB, CA
Message: Hey Keith...Go easy on the Met-Rx. You may have simultaneously caught Scott and Colburn bare handed, but there have been many 96mph+ HS sophmore pitchers....Jason Neighborgall RHP Riverside HS, Durham, NC and Mark Mc Cormick RHP Clearcreek HS , Clearlake Shores, TX (both at 98)and thats just this year. And Bob Faulkner...Myk's my pic for best HHS jock also, but be careful who you deem "delusional". 3 point players didn't exist until 1980. Later Cougs..:o)
There were many in our day too, only the radar gun hadn't been invented yet.
Name: Steve Rigg () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 12:42:31
City and State: Santa Rosa, Ca.
Message: Good job, John! It was fun to see some of the old faces past & present.
Hey Steve, Good to hear from you and we'll see you at our 40th in July.
Name: Kelly Grijalva () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 09:18:07
City and State: Long Beach, CA
Message: Just hoping everyone is doing well. Hoping to hear something about a 10 year class reunion.
Hi Kelly, If I hear something I'll post it on the Reunions Page.
Name: Gomez () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 09:11:17
City and State: Beavers
Message: Did anyone ever find out who Leroy was, or if he's coming back, or did everyone get who he was but me? The REAL Leroy please stand up! What state claims him? Robin? Mr. Lawyer? JBI? Also what is the Motown sound? What? Kell......?
Gomer, I think LeeRoy is still out there but hasn't checked in for a long time, and the motown sound is music that came out of Detroit (Motor City or Mo-town).
Name: nancy () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 02:13:51
City and State: big bear
Message: Just thought I would let you know that it was Blindman's shoes that was next to Clark Drugs and Kresge Store. My Mother allowed me to purchase the most god-awful, ugly red shoes there when I was in the third grade. This was definitely a time when she should have exercised her parent veto. Had to wear those ugly things till after Christmas vacation. I'll never forget.
Name: Enza Nicocia () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 01:41:11
City and State: L.A Lakers!!
Message: Sharon and Laura...you guys are right. I was confused with the Kress that was on Hawthorne Bl. and I think 132nd St. And John, your also right, the Tom McCanns was on 120th and Haw Bl. The Orbit cleaners is still in the Ralphs shopping center, Clarks drugs is now Savon (anybody remember the old Savon song that played on the radio in the 60's?), La Fiesta has been replaced w/El Torito. I don't remember what was next to La Fiesta in those days...but I think there's enough cougs out there that do! One more flash back...how about the Roscoe 5 and dime. I think it was located at 126th and Hawtorne Bl??
Now, back to sports. What ever happened to Wade Greasby, John Allen, Scott Laidlaw...those are the names that ring a bell w/me. Wouldn't it be great to hear from some of HHS great Varsity team members, and have them share their stories w/us...now THAT would be good reading!!
Name: JIM SLOEY () on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 00:42:18
City and State: redondo beach, ca
Message: Hey Keith, Dennis Zumwalt. We don't talk basketball until the 4th quarter of the final game, between the Kings and Celtics this year.
How about them Dodgers and Lakers
Name: Laura Porter () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 23:56:26
City and State: Hemet, CA
Message: Enza...I'm backing up Sharon on this one...the store near Clark Drugs was Kresges...there was also Thom McAnns Shoes and a La Fiesta Mexican restaurant. There were also a few smaller places in the same shopping center. I believe Orbit Cleaners and Crocker Bank as well. I got my first pair of high heels at McAnns and my first bra at Kresge. My mom worked the lunch counter there for a bit and I loved popping the balloons for the reduced price Hot Fudge Sundae. My girlfriends and I used to walk there in the summer. Great memories!
I think Thom McAnn was on the corner of Hawthorne and 120th.
Name: Keith D. Jones () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 22:53:58
City and State: Honolulu, HI
Message: Well, haven't been on here in awhile. Real busy. Anyway, I caught the best pitchers at HHS. Mike Scott went the farthest. Mike Colburn caught but could pitch too. but the best pitcher ability wise and if not for his off the field antics would be in the bigs is Greg Staffon. No matter what any of you "fans" say there hasn't been a pitcher at HHS or any high school that threw 96 mph as sophmore. That was timed by the same guy at dodger stadium with the hat. In the Florida state League he still has the record with 17 straight no-hit innings (including a 11 innning extra inning game) I also think his still has the record for most no hitters too. Too bad he was alittle misguided. Tracey Turner had a laser guided ball when he pitched. Dont know much about the real oldtimers, but it's pretty close to say no one came close to Greg's speed or talent on the ball field. Anyway stay out of the water here for awhile the sharks are real hungry this winter. Keith
Name: Sharon MacDonald () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 22:45:20
City and State: Burlington, Wisconsin
Message: Enza, I think that the store by Boys Market was a Kresges, not a Kress. There was also a shoe store, I think between Clarks and Kresges. I scooped ice cream and did gift wrapping at Clarks around 1965 or so. Ice cream cones were 5 cents for a single scoop.
Name: Myrna () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 21:46:50
City and State: Coalinga, CA
Message: I can remember (a very long time ago) being a huge fan of Dodger catcher Johnnie Roseboro. And, Paco, I have indelible memories of a "honey-bucket brigade" one year back in Oklahoma visiting my in-laws. That was a time when I was glad to be female and let the guys be macho. Us women just got to watch from a distance. Wasn't pleasant, that's for sure!!!
Name: Patti Barry () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 21:44:20
Maiden: Treckman (T4)
City and State: Long Beach
Message: Jim Sloey - Your post about the fair brings back nice memories. My mom (Marti Treckman) was a Kiwanis member back in the 70's/80's, and ran the fair for a few years. That was when it took place at the Hawthorne Memorial Center on Prairie Avenue and El Segundo. Is that park still there and still called the same thing? -- As for the sports issue, volleyball was and is still the best kind of sport. We attend the LBSU games quite a lot - very exciting stuff for affordable (not ridiculous like basketball) prices. My kids are following in the Treckman tradition and playing vb - both school and club. I was able to point out the lonely HHS win in the CIF book my daughter got when they won the CIF SS Div IAA this year (brag brag). tee hee
Name: BOB FAULKNER () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 21:33:39
City and State: GARDEN GROVE, CA
Message: SOME OF YOU PEOPLE MUST BE DELUSIONAL WHEN IT COMES TO THIS BASEBALL/BASKETBALL THING!!!! LET ME SET YOU STRAIGHT, AND HOPEFULLY THEIR WON'T BE ANY MORE CONVERSATION ON THE SUBJECT. FIRST THE CLASS OF 63 HAD THE GREATEST BASEBALL TEAM PERIOD. GARY MYKKANEN IS HHS'S ALL TIME GREATEST ALL AROUND ATHLETE. SO AS A CATCHER, SCOTT, LITTON, OR PHELPS,?? COULD NOT CARRY HIS GYM BAG. NOW AS FOR BILL SCHULTZ, HE WAS PROBABLY THE BEST DEFENSIVELY, BUT COULDN'T HIT HIS WEIGHT. NOW AS FOR BASKETBALL, GORDON MARTIN WAS A CENTER, AND AT 6'7 WAS A GIANT BACK THEN, BUT A LIMITED POST PLAYER, "MYK" AGAIN WAS MUCH BETTER AS A 3 POINT PLAYER. CROWELL, LITTON, SCOTT, GIVE ME A BREAK. TAKE CARE EVERYONE, KEEP EM COMING.
No need to hold back, Bob, let us know how you really feel.
Name: John Staley () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 20:39:09
City and State: New Cumberland, WV
Message: I found your site in a search for references to Loudmouth Lime. I thought it was very entertaining. I enjoyed everything that I visited. John Staley class of 1968 Oak Glen High School.
Thanks John and come on back anytime.
Name: gary mykkanen () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 20:22:53
City and State: brea ca.
Message: I'm going along with Jim Sloey on Billy as best catcher ever. My freshman year Duff Means was the varsity coach in baseball and basketball. We won 4 and lost 44. I think we did that without ROJOS help. Royal was behind the plate.
Name: Enza Nicocia () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 20:18:04
City and State: GO LAKERS, GO!!
Message: Ok Jill, it's obvious that you haven't given basketball a chance..yes, Rick Fox is easy on the eyes!!..( did you see the cover of the L.A Times magazine and the fashion layout of him...what a man.. all 6'7 of him!!) However, I too have enjoyed the likes of Yeager and his fabulous butt, not to mention his thunder thighs!! But, I find the sport too slow...basketball is much more exciting!! Especially when they do the reverse lay up, and they slam dunk..(I think that's what it's called!!)I'm still new to the game.
Dean Morris, weren't you a jock in your years at HHS..was it Baseball that you were great at? You too were easy on the eyes!! Didn't we go to a dance together. I'm a little foggy on that. I haven't seen you at any of the reunions...give us an update on your life!
Thanks John for the pic of the Drug store. Yes, I remember the cherry cokes, and also Anita store WAS the place for all school fashions. But, when they built Clark drugs, Kress, and Boys Market..what was there before that? Was is just a field? I remember also, the lunch counter that was in Kress. (Lunch counters..you don't see those anymore!! ) Ok, one more memory and I'm going to settle in w/a glass of vino and watch the Lakers game..welcome back Chick Hearn!! Does anyone remember the moccasins that were so "in" during the late 60's..I loved wearing those, they were either all white or a tan color. Oh, the pressures of fashion on a pre teen and teen years!!
Name: Jill McFarlane () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 19:20:49
City and State: Mission Viejo, CA
Message: Oh boy, I remember Anita's, it was a pretty big store with the newest fashions of the day. Now the food giant, wasn't that where La Fiesta was? Oh my, anyone ever get their shoes from I think it was Blimans shoes? Yikes, that goes back.
I have to disagree with Enza, basketball is not the sort of sport I fancy, but anytime I can see Rick Fox of the Lakers, is a good thing. What a hunk o man!
On that note, everyone have a good evening.
Food Giant was next to Thrifty Drugs on Hawthorne Bl and 132nd.
Name: dean morris () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 19:10:55
E-Mail: can't remember.com
City and State: SFGIANTSIN02HUMBABY
Message: I agree with Enza! Let's here suggestions for all time starting 5 in roundball for HHS. Might need to break it down by decade. Just for starters, how about Mike Scott, Paul Crowell, Danny Litton.
I would have to put 6'7" Gordon Martin (HHS59) in the hat.
Name: Dale Craig () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 18:59:51
City and State: Hawthorne Ca
Message: Good afternoon folks in cougartown glad everybody got through the first week of baseball season but it's getting near the post season of hockiey and basketball the Kings & the Lakers also a minor league team call the Long Beach Icedogs starting the 4/12/02 in Fresno on the 18th at Long Beach also on 5/27/02 the Western Baseball League Champion Long Beach Breakers start there season at Blair Field in Long Beach with field manager Steve "boomer" Yeager I'll be there hope to see Hawthorne Alumni there have great day A&W fans see ya later also Happy Birthday to Terri Murray class of 77 and her sister Marilyn class 74 tomarrow see Dale "dr. tazmo" Craig spirit of 76
Name: Enza Nicocia () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 18:26:23
City and State: GO LAKERS!!
Message: Ok, I have a question. Why is it that all the sport guys go from Football season, right into Baseball season...doesn't anybody enjoy Basketball? I LOVE the Lakers!! I am amazed at how the old timers like, Fisher, Shaw, and Horry, can keep up w/the likes of Kobe, George, and Hunter, to name a few. There are some other great players on other teams, but I am a loyal Laker fan. It's funny that no one talks about Basketball....it doesn't have to be the Lakers, there are so many good teams out there, and when they are "on" it's just like poetry in motion. I just might have to buy season tickets next year.. I just can't get enough of Basketball, there are truly amazing to watch!
Ok, enough about sports...back to Hawthorne news. Does anyone remember the Anita store on the corner of Broadway and Hawthorne Bl.? What was the name of the store that was across the street from it, and had a soda fountain in it...I think it was a drug store, or some kind of discount store in the early 60's. And what about the Food Giant that burned down...what year was that? Ok John, don't give me a hard time about talking sports, I gave Hawthorne equal time.
Where are all the regulars that used to post..I miss all the chats that were so entertaining. Come on cougs, lets start sharing again!!
Enza, the store you're referring to was Mastins Drug Store. It was owned by Grant Mastin, who was a Haytowner from, I guess, the 20's. It had the best comic book rack and Cherry Coke in town. (Sorry for the picture quality)
Name: JIM SLOEY () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 17:47:04
Maiden: BIG KLU
City and State: REDONDO BEACH, CA
Message: Was the Hawthorne fair brought to you by the Hawthorne Kiwanis and other Hawthorne Communtiy businesses that was preceded by the Hawthorne parade down Hawthorne Boulevard within the City limits of Hawthorne and always included the Hawthorne High School marching band and drill team?
Name: Howard "Paco" Duran () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 17:33:14
City and State: Lake Forest
Message: When was the last time you had your "Cesspool" pumped out? Or almost lost a sister in one (That's another story)?
Can't wait for that one....
Name: Linda Reynolds () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 17:17:26
City and State: Chatsworth, CA
Message: Dear Classmates: Just a note to let you know one of our classmates has passed away. Geraldine Haywood Baker, Class of 62 passed away last October. Geraldine had a stroke several years ago and died of complications from the stroke, and ultimately heart failure. I spoke to her husband, David, who misses her very very much. I told him I would pass the sad news on to her friends and fellow classmates.
Rest well, Geraldine.
Always sad to hear this kind of news. Thanks for letting us know, Linda....
Name: tjb () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 17:03:19
City and State: anywhereusa
Message: John, I'm not sure, but I think the Hawthorne little league teams were, the Optimidgets, Braves, Lions, and Cubs
TJB, you got my team, the Optimidgets, and the Cubs. The other two were not the Lions and the Braves, nor were they any other major league team name. What were they?
Name: Tressa () on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 at 17:10:46
City and State: Tustin, CA
Message: We had a backyard incinerator. My sister and I used to try to smoke the reed grass (?) that grew behind it?!! We also had a fire pit where we roasted marshmallows and made s'mores! Then the fire department found us out (we were @ the corner of Prairie and 129th) and we couldn't "roast" anymore. So, no more s'mores!!
I also remember the Hawthorne fair. Boy did I have a lot of glass bowls!!!! (Much better than goldfish LOL)
I won a goldfish one year and dropped little goldie on the way home. I put him in my pocket and ran the rest of the way, but he was in fishy heaven when I arrived.