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Name: Sandra () on Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 06:14:52

Email: Mark
City and State: Glendale,Ca.
Maiden: Sandra Mark
Class: 1964
Message: Firstly, I would like to thank you for the beautiful tributes you gave my Mother, I know she was a mentor to many of you and you should know she loved you all. My Father died on Father's Day 2003 from complications. After college and was lucky enough to work my way up and anything that looked like a typewriter. Ironically enough, I've become involved in screenwriting. I'll let you know if something exciting happens. Email me. By the way, no children, no husband. My Mother always told me "men make better boyfriends than husbands."
Hi Sandra, Glad you found us and yes, your Mom was my all time favorite teacher at HHS. She was no nonsense, but funny. She was strict, but very fair. Thanks for checking in, Sandra, and come on back anytime.

Name: Keith Jones () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 20:59:00
Email: cmi50@yahoo.com
City and State: Kona, HI
Class: 1976
Message: We have a few Otange Julius here too. 4 or 5 on Oahu. we actually have one here in Kona. man we're big time now.

Name: KAREN () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 20:30:49

Email: DOGDEDE@AOL.COM
City and State: REDONDO BEACH
Maiden: WEBSTER
Class: 1972
Message: DALE TOBIASON, MY MOM AND I ARE SO SORRY ABOUT YOUR DADS PASSING. WE ARE HERE FOR YOU IF YOU NEED ANYTHING. JUST LIKE YOU WERE THERE TO HELP ME AND MOM. SINCERE CONDOLENCES,KAREN WEBSTER BEARNS AND LOIS WEBSTER

Name: Dennis Kilroy () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 19:52:26

Email: xcabledudeAtYahoo.com
City and State: OC CA
Class: 1977
Message: Hey Dale it is good to see you on CTown. I grew up on 118th around the corner from you. Of course you would not remember all the little kids in the neighborhood like me. But, we all remember all the older kids racing around the streets, driving hot rods. If I remember right you had a nice Camaro. Sorry for your Dad's passing. Peace be with you and your family.
Dennis Kilroy

Name: Dale Tobiason () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 19:29:23

Email: redragon@1st-dialup.com
City and State: Yucaipa, Ca
Class: 1970
Message: John - you continue to do an outstanding job here - so many are so grateful to you for this site - you will never know how many it has touched over the years & will continue to for many to come - I had come back here today to update my address book - it is with a heavy heart that I logged on today, as my Father(Bob Tobiason-Leuzinger class of 1952) passed away this week & I needed to check on a few address changes. Thanks again John - Dale Tobiason
Hi Dale, Very sorry about your Father. Especially tough on Fathers Day week. My sincere condolences to you and your family.

Name: Denny Unfried () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 18:05:28
City and State: Del Aire
Class: 1955
Message: To answer one of the earlier questions ~ yes, Orange Julius is still around. One that comes to mind is at the base of the lighthouse in Fisherman's Village Marina Del Rey. It's right in the patio where the jazz concert is held on Sunday afternoons. It also makes a cool pit stop when biking on the beach path towards Malibu.
Thanks Den'....

Name: Tom Shelley () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 14:52:03

Email: tomshelley@earthlink.net
City and State: Torrance, CA
Class: 1962
Message: We all agree that the recent defacing of "our monument" is appalling and disgusting. I believe that we now need to try to come up with some workable solution to the problem. I emailed the mayor, as many of us did. I congratulated him and the other city members for their support of the "...Boys" monument and asked what suggestions he had for keeping it safe. I received a nice reply from him telling me that the city is committed to protecting the site, but no specific ideas on how to do that. In my EM I told the mayor that I was going to go on the C-town site and ask for a response to the idea of a "reward fund". I suggested that the City of Hawthorne might match any funds that we acquired. The reward, of course would be paid only for an arrest AND conviction of anyone caught defacing the monument. We would also recruit the assistance of the local media to help announce and promote the existence of the reward as well as remind parents of the fact that they are FINANCIALLY responsible for the results of the actions of their children. This, of course, is no 'fool proof' solution but with the full cooperation of the City, law enforcement and the media, perhaps we can take the "fun" out of defacing this particular site. I would be willing to pledge perhaps $100 to a reward fund. Your thoughts on this idea? Or maybe better ideas? TS

Name: Cindy Colby () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 13:43:16

Email: cindycolby@adelphia.net
City and State: Seal Beach, CA
Maiden: Maxson
Class: 1963
Message: I have to agree with what Jim says, there is a whole different intent to what these people are doing, I hate to see all of their crap all over whether it be in Hawthorne or anywhere else. It stinks no matter what you call it or what generation does it.

Name: Jim Pasternak () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 11:50:52

Email: backdraftco@hotmail.com
City and State: Ladera Ranch, CA
Class: 1968
Message: Good Point? When reading about the comparison of modern day taggers and egg throwers of the '60s, I sensed a bit of liberal - view expression and compassionate interpretation which hopefully fell rightfully short of in any way defending the action or lessening the impact of this egregious act.
What was omitted was that tagging is done to
1)mark off or express territory
2)advertise drug trade
3)recruit new gang members or
4)issue challenges to rival gangs.
There is nothing cute or innocent about this recent event. When anyone threw eggs at houses in the 60's, the only goal was to remain unidentified in order to stay alive. Not quite the same situation in any case. Let's compare apples to apples and not attempt to sugar-coat this violence-related caper. It's this Red Neck's opinion that these two different scenarios do not belong in the same article. Thanks for yours.
Thanks Jim, My point is vandalism is vandalism, whatever the intent. Not defending either era....

Name: Andrea () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 11:28:06

Email: ValleyofMyDolls@aol.com
City and State: Hawthorne
Maiden: Rossi
Class: 1982
Message: Hi Everyone, there used to be an Orange Julius place in the Hawthorne Mall.I'm pretty sure there is one in the DelAmo mall too..........Elizabeth A. what was your street address when you lived on 133rd? you can email me back....:} Andrea

Name: Elizabeth Aleccia () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 10:12:20

Email: elizabeth.aleccia@gmail.com
City and State: Redondo Beach, CA
Class: 1969
Message: I'll tell anyone who asks..or even if they don't ask...that I grew up in Hawthorne and graduated from Hawthorne High. They can bite me if that's a problem. I don't defend taggers and the mess they leave. I just hate it. But I'm compelled to ask this question. Now don't get ticked off but ...a few pages back someone was telling the story about a group of us who poured blue die or something in the water at Disneyland..and you can still, to this day, see the ring of color around the rim...and another group of us (in the 60s) T.P'd Senior Square and in the midst of all that excitement started a fire, threw eggs and human feces at the windows and God knows what else. Some poor Hawthorne employee or employees had to clean that up. Our house on 133rd was egged and it went unnoticed until it had dried and caked on. No amount of scrubbing would get it off. We had that stain for a long time until the house was finally painted, at some expense I might add....and we had "Kilroy was here" and "Surfers Rule" and "Hodad's Rule" written all around town, much to my father's chagrin. But, we were just mischievious teens and when we share those memories, we get a grin and a laugh about it. Once again...I am NOT defending taggers...I really do believe they need to be arrested, but isn't it just funny that when we were doing damage, it was 'kids being kids' and when they do it ...it's criminal? I know...it was different back then.
Very good point. When we did it, it was just being a kid, but now that we've all turned into our parents, it's criminal.
My Opinion: The difference is we were instantly responsible for our actions. If I got caught throwing eggs at a house, the owner would grab me, give me a bucket and a scrub brush, or worse, call my parents. Now you'd be sued for that action OR get yourself shot. It's a different world.

Name: Jim Peppers () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 05:27:12

Email: JimPeppers@yahoo.com
City and State: Athens, Greece
Class: 1961
Message: Dear Cougars, Sad to hear about the taggers defacing the Beach Boys monument, but, as someone said, it was certain to happen. I laughed at Sharon's idea of posting a sniper, good one! Anyway, to talk of something different, I was thinking about things that I missed from the states and the past and the Orange Julius came to mind. I really drank them only a few times, but I remember loving them. Do they still exist? What was that ingredient that they mixed into the orange juice, and where were they located? Was there one in Hawthorne? Be well Cougars, and I hope you find a solution to the tagger problem. Jim Peppers
Hi Jim, There was an Orange Julius on Hawthorne Bl at El Segundo at one time, and one on up around Rosecrans and the Bl. I remember they would ask if you wanted an egg in it. I loved Orange Julius. Don't know if they're still around, but I'll bet someone does. Thanks Jim....

Name: Baxter Dodd () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 00:46:28

Email: baxterldo@aol.com
City and State: Riverside, CA
Class: 1957
Message: I am shocked that the entire surface of the monument was not appropriately coated with surfboard wax!! After this gets cleaned up, maybe we can have a ?board? waxing party. But seriously, I talked to my youngest son, Jeff, who is a risk manager in Behr Paint?s legal department and asked if there is something new in the anti-graffiti market and what the options are. He said the same thing that you people have been saying including the .50 cal on the roof. As you know, there are two types of anti-graffiti coatings with the wash-off and recoat continuing to be the most effective and popular of the two. He did say that the secret was to get it done in the morning before these bums roll out of bed expecting to cruise by and see their handy work from the night before. It frustrates the heck out of them when it is gone and, after a few times, they either give up or get careless and caught.. . . Baxter

Name: Cindy Colby () on Saturday, June 18, 2005 at 00:05:29

Email: cindycolby@adelphia.net
City and State: Seal Beach, CA
Maiden: Maxson
Class: 1963
Message: I am with Sharon, I proudly tell anyone who will listen that I am from Hawthorne, it was a wonderful place to grow up. Of course I always tell them about Cougartown too.
Well thank you Cindy....

Name: Janet Burkett () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 23:34:25

Email: jmburkett@sti.net
City and State: Ca
Maiden: Humphreys
Class: 1962
Message: I guess I am a little late with this, but have been highly encouraged to at least mention Fred Burkett's (HHS 61) Water Polo accomplishments. I know he played the first three years the sport was offered at HHS and our daughter tells me that she thinks some of his records still stand, i.e. most points per game and points in a season. Not sure I can verify...maybe Coach Jones can!
In retrospect, I wish I had quizzed him more while he was alive about all the trophies he had from Water Polo stashed at his Mom's house. His legacy is four grandkids who all swim competitively and one who follows in his surfing footsteps as well!
Fred was also one of the really great guys at HHS. Seemed like he always had that big smile on his face. We miss you, Fred....

Name: Sharon Branigan () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 22:50:47

Email: srbranigan.srb@verizon.net
City and State: Thousand Oaks, CA
Maiden: Bierman
Class: 1976
Message: Well now Keith, my dear, that's the difference- I proudly tell everyone I meet that I am from Hawthorne, Home of the Beach Boys. Most people are bewildered by my introduction but what the heck, it's my only claim to fame. And by gosh, it was a wonderful town in which to grow. Just check CT feedback or attend a CT event to find some of the greatest people on the planet!!!
AMEN to that one....

Name: Elizabeth Aleccia () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 22:48:36
Email: elizabeth.aleccia@gmail.com
City and State: Redondo Beach, CA
Maiden: Estrada
Class: 1969
Message: Sorry... Larry Guidi is 'Guido'...That's what my dad and I used to call him.
OHHH!!!!

Name: ROJO () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 22:28:19
Email: WHO CARES
City and State: YOU KNOW
Maiden: FORGOT
Class: 1961
Message: How do you stop the machine? MAY THE COUAGR BE WITH YOU! Jake N Jude!:-))
You mean the machine GUN.

Name: Elizabeth Aleccia () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 22:20:00

Email: elizabeth.aleccia@gmail.com
City and State: Redondo Beach, CA
Maiden: Estrada
Class: 1969
Message: I've got an idea...make gang activity, including tagging, a terrorist threat. After all they do terrorize our neighborhoods. That way, under the Patriot ACT, they really can be picked up and sent away without charges or a trial or nothin'. Won't cost us much except the fuel to fly them to Cuba. I like it! Guido's another 133rd Street boy. Hey Guido....you and my dad would have figured that one out.
Who's Guido?

Name: Myrna () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 21:50:28

Email: mybizzwood@sbcglobal.net
City and State: Nevada City, CA
Maiden: Bell
Class: 1966
Message: Hi John - I know I'm at least a day late (and more than one dollar short), but a family favorite of ours (besides BBQ Pete's) was Haji Baba's on Centinela. I was just over to Dad's in Chico, and he was talking about the belly dancer coming right up to him and shaking everything in his face. He loved it! Now, about my cousin Norv Vorhis - I didn't know his name has been changed to Norm Voorhis.
I remember Haji Babas too. I didn't know your dad was getting lap dances there though.

Norv to Norm and Vor to Voor, you'll have to ask your cuz. He's still Norv to me.

Name: Armand Vaquer () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 21:25:51

Email: AMVaquer@aol.com
City and State: Tarzana, CA
Class: 1972
Message: I am stunned beyond words that the Beach Boys monument was not coated with an anti-graffiti agent from the beginning! That is just plain gross negligence! I actually expected that the monument would be defaced sooner or later (given the make-up of the neighborhood), so I am not surprised. But I am surprised that whoever was in charge of it did not add any kind of protection.
Actually anti-graffiti paint has to be reapplied after every incident as when they pressure wash the graffiti, the coating comes off with it, but in my opinion, it needs to be added. You can add all the web cams you want, but that's just going to allow the whole world to see the act. The taggers are there and gone in seconds.

Name: Chris Prewitt () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 20:23:29

Email: cjprewitt at juno dot com
City and State: Fullerton, CA
Class: 1967
Message: "Shootin's too good for them taggers...send them to Guantanamo." I am sorry but I being cheap have another idea. Simply require the convicted taggers to clean up the tagging in rival gangs turf and vice versa. It doesn't require city staff (county sheriff and probation officers can watch) and the areas get cleaned up. By the way, Happy Birthday to Brian Wilson on Monday!
Happy 63rd, Brian....

Name: Russ Jacobsen & Judi Kiester () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 20:06:36

Email: jakejude@aol.com
City and State: Kuna,ID
Maiden: BOTHOFUS
Class: 1960
Message: Lots of bad news on the page today. Sorry about the defacing of our Boys Monument. They were good friends of mine and my wife. BUT.. The good news is that two HHS kids have made it, TODAY, 44 YEARS as husband and wife. Thank You very much. No cards gif... Cool. MAY THE COUGAR BE WITH YOU. Jake n Jude.
HAPPY 44TH to you two. The Cougar HAS been with you, that's for sure. No friskiness tonight Russ. LEAVE HER ALONE!!!

Name: Paco () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 20:00:43

Email: doo4usc@cox.net
City and State: LF
Class: 1961
Message: JB, the Committee just came up with 2 suggestions..1.Hire the Minute Men to patrol the monument 2.Move it to 26th st and have the Jensen brothers watch it.
Now THAT'S a plan..

Name: Karen Fraser () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 19:19:23
Email: krafalski@hotmail.com
City and State: Hawthorne
Maiden: Bob Fraser
Class: 1960
Message: Hey Cougs- I know everyone is very passionate about the Beach Boy Monument but let's remember that you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar (or something like that) Please be respectful when emailing the Mayor. He IS one of the GOOD GUYS and I know he will do everything in his power to help come up with options to fix and secure the monument. The man gives 24/7 to the city everyday. It is not his fault that some scumbags messed things up. Thanks...
Thanks Karen....

Name: Larry Guidi () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 18:48:18

Email: larryguidi@earthlink.net
City and State: Hawthorne Ca.
Class: 1976
Message: I want to Thank everyone who sent me an email concerning the Beach boy Landmark.
This is a dream come true for all of us. We have worked hard to protect this great honor Hawthorne has received. Cougartown played a big role to make this dream come true for the world to enjoy. The Hawthorne City Council and Police Dept. will do what ever it takes to protect this Landmark. Mayor Guidi
Mr. Mayor, So far that hasn't worked. What will you do now? I heard the City wasn't even considering anti-graffiti paint. Is that true?
Also, Cougartown doesn't condone the nasty vile email you've received and I do apologize for those. The point here is not to deride you or anyone at City Hall. We are just letting you know we're concerned about the Monument and want to know what's going to be done. Thanks for your time.

Name: kevin thoms () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 18:18:15
Email: kevin0617@aol.com
City and State: riverside,ca
Maiden: eaton
Class: 1968
Message: i understand sandy crenshaw has been looking for me. im here. hows it going? life is routine and well for me.
kevin
Kevin, go to the Alumni List, click on the class of 68, get her email address and email her directly. Thanks....

Name: Raymond Smith () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 17:58:48

Email: Kawabunganorth@juno.com
City and State: Portland, OR
Class: 1981
Message: Just read the tagging on the Beach Boys monument. First of all, the area that was choosen was good for it was the "Site" where they lived at. 2nd of all, it's in a bad area because I lived 6 blocks from it from 1972 to 1984 and has seen crime go up with gangs and all(lived on 116th st and Kornblum. Personally, I thought it would of been better to have the monument on Hawthorne Blvd and El Seugundo. High traffic congestion so it is less likely to be defaced. Also, the HPD is a few blocks away hence too close for comfort to get caught. Putting a fence, cam won't stop them. All they have to do is just put on a heavy jacket or jump the fence and do the dirty work.

Name: Jim Gibson () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 17:22:46

Email: surfsup1765@sbcglobal.net
City and State: Redding, CA
Class: 1967
Message: Just read Eliabeth Aleccia's post below...MY KINDA GIRL!!! - gibby

Name: Sharon () on Friday, June 17, 2005 at 17:15:41
Email: sharonlleach@cs.com
City and State: Long Beach
Maiden: Moore
Class: 1966
Message: NOW, for the big news. Mark September 17, 2005 for the Cougartown Picnic. It's far enough away that no one should have any excuses why they can't make it. It's after summer and school has started, so most people will already have taken their vacations. We had over 150 Cougars last year and know there will be more this year. I'll have to arrange with John for a way to sign up on the site, as I will not have as much time this year to keep a list. Hopefully, John can do that. Let me know John. Otherwise, we'll have to work something else out.
Also, I will need lots of help putting this together. Please volunteer to help make this a wonderul event. Hope to see lots of Cougs in September. We had such a great time last year.
GO COUGARS!
OK Sharon, I'll add a sign up list to the website in the next few days. Please send me the where it's going to be and the time.
We had such a great time last year. I hope you all can make it; you won't be sorry.

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