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Name: Enza Nicocia () on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:58:14
City and State: La La Land
Message: So, tis the season!!! How about some xmas cheer...does anybody remember the old fire station on El Segundo, across from Washington Elementary? I remember going up to Santa w/my brother Nick and sister Annie (both class of '74), what a treat to get candy canes and chocolate...the firemen were so kind and friendly, it made an impression on me at an early age..always had respect for the firemen!! And how about the decorated houses, (I think it was in Inglewood,) where there were blocks and blocks of beautiful lit houses w/all kinds of xmas joy for a little girl to enjoy, so much simpler back then wasn't it. What about the old Xmas decorations on Hawthorne Blvd. Wish I could get my hands on those, great Xmas collectibles!! And you know how much I enjoy collecting antiques...yes, I am an incurable collector!!
Well, I know some of you have other Hawthorne Xmas stories, lets start celebrating the season!! Oh, one more thing. Where was it that they had a manger scene up, with big statues of baby Jesus, etc....I remember going there w/the whole family every year....(it might be Inglewood again.) Ok, I remember one more......this memory is more for my immediate family (which consists of 7 other siblings.) I remember going to my Dad's work, McCulloch Motors Christmas party, ( up on Century Blvd)..It was a huge celebration, a big thing for us kids, we all got great presents from Santa, and then we all went into this big auditorium and watched Disney cartoons in black and white...so festive, hundreds of kids all bright eyed...wonderful childhood memories!!
So, how about sharing you childhood memories, I would love to hear some old Hawthorne stories about the Xmas season..I have more memories, but I'm having a senior moment...
Ciao for now...Enza
Hi Enza, I think the place you're remembering in Inglewood was Regent Circle. The whole Circle was decorated and I DO remember a Nativity scene there. Also it was the first time I'd ever seen Santa and his reindeer on the roof of a house.
Great memory, thanks. Does anyone else have Christmas memories to share?
Name: Tim Helble () on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:46:00
City and State: Columbia, MD
Message: Lots of feedback about punishments they went through at home - how about at HHS? I heard the P.E. coaches had a wooden paddleball racket with holes drilled in it, and kept it in the office in the middle of the locker room. It never happened to me, but I heard that if you messed around in the locker room (snapping towels, etc.) and got caught you could get nailed there and then in your birthday suit. Is this truth or myth? Anybody ever see this happen?
Just knowing the paddle was there would keep most guys on the straight and narrow.
Name: Bill Cusac () on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:36:44
City and State: South Lake Tahoe, Ca
Message: Yes Betty, I still remember that chair to this day. Happy Holidays to everyone.
Name: rusty () on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 12:23:34
City and State: Viva Las Vegas!
Message: WOW!, am I glad my folks only used dissapointment and guilt as punishment!
Name: Robert Valenzuela () on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 11:27:20
City and State: Lomita, CA
Message: Has anybody heard from Tim Haddy, Mike Hall, Russell Garret, Jim Brown?
Name: Betty Rodriguez () on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:22:14
City and State: Lake Elsinore, CA
Message: My dad had a paddle - painted yellow & green. He kept it prominently displayed. We only got swatted a few times, but it hurt like hell. I'm sure it didn't compare to the kid across the street - who once had a chair broken over his back. I will never forget that - ever! My son has felt the belt - he has respect. My husband has also seen my wrath when he picks up that belt - he has respect too! Betty
Name: Patti Smith () on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 10:09:34
City and State: Cypress, CA
Message: Regarding childhood discipline, I readily admit to spanking my daughter, and she turned out to be a really good kid. In fact, she gave her little half-brother his very first spanking...she got hell for it from her dad and step-mother because they didn't believe in corporal punishment. But guess what? They found out that time-outs DIDN'T WORK, so guess who spanks now? Sometimes a kid is so out of control that they need a swat or two on the behind to break the cycle and get their attention. Notice I said ON THE BEHIND...NEVER on the face! I remember my father one time just lost it with my brother Bob. Dad was spanking his bare behind with a belt, when the buckle slipped out of his hand and caught Bob's back...left an impression of the buckle. It also left another impression...Dad never again used a belt on any of us...nothing but his hand. There does come a time when swatting is no longer appropriate, and restrictions are imposed. But with kids nowadays, it doesn't do any good to send them to their rooms...they all have their own phones, TV's, stereos, VCR's...everything they need. I did, however, lock all the phones in the car trunk sometimes when my daughter was grounded.
Name: Walter Holt () on Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 00:38:27
City and State: Orange, Ca
Message: Ok Cougs guess I'm going to put my two cents in on this child abuse issue. As I child growing up when I screwed up my parents would spank me with a razor strap it would sting like crazy but leave no marks. In my parents defense I didn't get spanked unless I really screwed up. Before issuing my punishment they would sit down and talk to me reasoning the errors of my ways then make me go think about it before my punishment was issued and never struck me in anger. Later in life it was restriction which hurt more than the spanking. I think possibly the key is not do anything to a child as an angry reaction or while one is angry. Fortunately I have never struck a child and that is by my own choice nor felt a need to. I have raised my voice and at times have been threatened by a couple of children if I laid a hand on them they would call the authorities, which I would politly pick up the phone and ask them to dial the number and we would have them come out and talk about their behavior at which they backed off. I guess I have been fortunate because the children I have been involved with have turned out to be good people. I do believe they greater problem with childern stems from neglect. That does not mean to say that I do not believe our system has overstepped their bounds and created more harm than good.
Spare the rod and spoil the child.....that's my motto. I'm not saying "Slap them Silly", I just believe in being "instantly" responsible for your actions. Too much of the "wait till your father gets home" does NOT work. Pay the price when it happens and get over it.
Name: Maureen () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 23:31:22
Message: HIS PICTURE, TOP TO BOTTOM AND LEFT TO RIGHT: ROW ONE: #4-Roy Carpenter, #8-Mary Gutierrez ROW TWO: #3-Jerry Daquila, #7-Bobby Hunter ROW THREE: #4-Al Jardine, #6-Jim Crawford ROW FOUR: #6-Margaret Flintham
Hey Mo, Roy Carpenter-NO, Mary Gutierrez-YES, Jerry Daquila-NO, Bobby Hunter-NO, Al Jardine-NO, Jim Crawford-NO, and Margaret Flintham-YES......
Name: Terrie Kostiszak () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 23:28:35
City and State: Las Vegas, NV
Message: Hi, I am searching for an old HHS friend, his name is Mark Escovedo class of 76, does anyone know how to get a hold of him? If so email me with the info, thank you sooo much, Terrie Kostiszak -- email@example.com
Name: Wayne Dickey () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 23:27:36
City and State: La Palma, Ca.
Message: Mike, in regards to your story about slapping your child. I feel that what you did was the right punishment. How dare anyone question your loyalty as a parent. Abusive, I don't think so. Anyone that would think that, needs help themselves. My mother and father were strict. They used the yard stick, (the free one from the bank), and their hands to get their point across, but they were not abusive. Some authorities take this abusue thing to a different level.
A YARDSTICK??!! Man, That's what my grandmother used on me, and it was NOTHING!! I got it with a wooden spoon from my mom and that one HURT!!
Name: Keith D. Jones () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 22:57:00
City and State: Honolulu, HI
Message: I just remembered my dad saying something I thought was funny then and still do now. If we did something wrong and had an excuse my dad would say "Excuses are like &%*holes everybody's got one" That is very true when you think about it. Cheez, if getting a spanking was treated like it is now when we were kids my dad would be in San Quentin and we would only be able to see him during visiting hours. Kids nowadays have it easy.
I agree....kids nowadays have it TOO easy.
Name: Ron Dickson () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 22:41:48
City and State: Norco,Ca
Message: Following Paco's lead, here is a picture of our Grandkids taken in Medford, Oregon last week visiting for Thanksgiving. This picture was a gift from the kids for JoAnn's and my 31st wedding anniversary November 28th. Jacob (7yrs) and Madison Norman (3 Mo.) (Grandpa's John Norman "68", Ron Dickson "67" - Grandma Jo Ann (Sexton) Dickson "70" and Kris (Pekala) LaMonica "72") and Dad to Jake and Madison (Johnny Norman "88"). Notice "All Cougar Alumni". And also introducing McKenna Strosser, Ron and JoAnn's newest addition (two weeks old). Their mothers were also Cougars, but from Norco High School, here in Norco, California.
Thanks Ron, It's hard to imagine little Johnny Norman, Leo and Betty Norman's youngest.....a grandpa. I can remember not talking to Johnny because I was a senior and he was in the 6th grade. Where HAS the time gone?
Name: Alan Hauge () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 20:18:33
City and State: Playa del Rey, CA
Message: Hey John, this is great...the new CT web site. I've been hold up at Pinks in Hollywood for the last year waiting for John and everyone to come and they never showed. All without an internet connection. A Coug came by and told me I missed the Prom, Frostys and smacking my kids around...which is what happens when you live for a year on chili dogs and root beer. Is Sloey still up to his old tricks? And Rich Sloan...never sent me my reunion pictures....OK John only kidding, I'm back but not by popular demand. The new site looks
supercalafragilisticexpealadosus.....never could spell anyway, and remembering a single word from Mary Poppins" in 1964 isn't my strong suit. Hot Dogs anyone? Oh yeah, and John, some guy met me at Pinks on my extended stay and wanted to know if I wanted to make a million selling a new product in Afghanistan. A special toy for the boys: There called: Jihad Joe Dolls, for ages 6-10. A full size model for teens comes with a real grenade and detailed instructions of how to pull the pin on a grenade before throwing "the pin" as far as you can.
Hey Alan, Haven't seen you since the reunion in April. Glad to have you back and do NOT stay away this long again!!
Name: Doris () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 19:13:48
City and State: Twin Falls, ID
Message: GREAT NEW LOOK for us Cougs! Thanks John! And just love Paco in his hat with his handlebar mustache; PACO! Did you pose for that 'cuz it's adorable! GOOD to see DZ and MoMo in FEEDBACK again! Miss you girls!!! HEY CLASS OF '57!!! How about some of us putting together a 45th reunion! Anybody game? Email me.
Name: Art La Mere () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 18:56:43
City and State: Bettendorf Ia.
Message: John hope you had a wonderful thanksgiving? like the new look. OK Michael it is a wonder your son is still around you. First off in the state of Washington as any other state by law if anyone teacher, doctor, anyone Thinks a child is being harmed in anyway and they don't report it to the police they can be in trouble. Yes 30 or 40 years ago a parent could do just about anything they wanted to and no one said anything to them except maybe heard your kid crying . you got him good. anyway I have seen alot of abused kids working in the schools in California and Wisconsin it's really not nice. as a parent I would hope that if I have a problem and abuse my kids that some one would have the smarts to call for help and I would be thankful that they did. Yes that might have been the only time but how do they know that. on a lighter note hope and pray that all of you had a wonderful thanksgiving with your families as did I. God bless and happy holidays to all
Name: Rick Sundell () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:42:56
City and State: Huntington Beach, CA
Message: Is anyone heading up the 35th year reunion for the class of 1967?
Haven't heard a word, Rick.
Name: Maureen Trott () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:41:38
City and State: Hawthorne, CA
Message: OK John, I'm going to take a stab at the HIS picture...probably most are wrong, but here goes.
BOTTOM ROW: #4 Margaret Flintham
ROW TWO: #4 Al Jardine, #6 Jim Crawford
ROW THREE: #3 Jerry Daquila, #7 Bobby Hunter
TOP ROW: #4 Roy Carpenter and #8 Mary Gutierrez (this one I know for sure). How bad was I?
Mo, Bottom Row - #4 is Brian Wilson; Row 3 - #3 is a girl. Try it again and this time start at the top to bottom as ROW 1 through 4, and go LEFT TO RIGHT as column 1 through 9.
Name: Elizabeth Estrada () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:36:44
City and State: Redondo Beach,CA
Message: Michael Aceves, You hit your seven year old across the face, and it was still red the next day, and you have to ask if it was abusive? Maybe compared to what you endured as a child you may think it was appropriate but, I think it's abusive to hit anyone in the face, especially a child. You may want to look into an anger management class, a parenting class or family therapy to resolve your issues. When I was a kid in Hawthorne we used to talk about getting 'it' when we got home. We always made it sound as if we were abused. Whatever someone else's punishment was, we had to make ours sound worse. But mostly I heard, "You're on restriction until you're 18!" It never lasted more than 2 weeks, though. Hope you all had a happy Thanksgiving. Dizzy Lizzy
Name: rusty () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:17:18
City and State: L.V.
Message: Hey, how 'bout those Cougars!!
Name: Jill McFarlane () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 17:03:46
City and State: Mission Viejo
Message: John, I like what you've done to the feedback page, it looks so hip! I have enjoyed reading everyone's parental sayings, it brought back memories.
Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving, I am still full. Thanksgiving took on a whole different meaning this year than in the years past.
I am grateful for those who are still with us, but saddened by those who are no longer.
On an up note, it is my middle boy's birthday today. His name is Erik and he is 7! We will be taking him to Micky D's for his birthday feast tonight.
Take care Coug's!
Thanks Jill, It was time for a little change. Happy Birthday Erik.....
Name: Howard "Paco" Duran () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 16:49:05
Message: Hi Coug's! It's that time of year!! Time to be festive!! Send your Holiday pictures, inside or outside, all are welcome. Here's my granddaughter, to get it started, Tali "ucla lover" Route.
Thanks Paco, anyone else have holiday pics with snow, Christmas Trees, presents, Menoras, etc? If you do, send them here with a feedback telling what's going on, or send them to firstname.lastname@example.org and he'll add the picture.
Name: michael () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 13:26:26
City and State: Soggy Washington State
Message: I very much agree with the child abuse issue. As a child my dad and mom both abused us. Today I don't abuse my kids though I was brought up that way. I just send them to their rooms and ground them from the computer and friends. 2 years ago at the dinner table my, at the time, 7 year told me and my older son to "go suck a hippo's !*&!". I instantly slapped him and asked him where he had gotten such a vile line like that and he said that his best freind said it would be funny to say at dinner time. The next morning he woke up with a slight red mark on his cheek where I slapped him. Well that afternoon I got a call from State Child Welfare Services saying that my son was in custody and was going to be put in a temporay Foster home becuase I was dangerous to him. Two days later my wife was able to get him back home and I had to sign an affidavid stateing that I was a child abuser and would be under probation for 5 years and that I had to stay on the other side of my own house to boot for 2 weeks! Watch out folks there are some really crazy people out there along with teachers that have NO business being teachers. Do you think I'm a child abuser? Our father beat us with belts, boards, fists, hangers and anything he could get his hands on daily!
Name: Peggy Sarvis () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 12:54:12
City and State: Lakewood, CA
Message: This is really going back in years, but I remember when I had that "time of the month" I couldn't take a bath (only a shower) and couldn't wash my hair (I never figured that one out). I look at girls now in thongs and remember the good old Kotex belts. If they only knew. Were we ahead of our time or behind?
Name: carole ferruccio () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 11:55:23
City and State: lake isabella, ca
Message: here goes some guessing on class picture. row 1 - #1 Buddy Quentana #2 Curtis A'lurede second from last Mary Heiler 3rd row - 3rd from end Cathy Wasley 2nd from end Henry (butch) Tetler end of row Mary Rogin Oh and 1st row -#6 Calvin Shoemaker. Not sure I spelled names right or even got people right and there are a few more I know but can't remember their names but they also went to Eucalyptus grade school.
Name: CHERYL NICOCIA () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 09:47:01
City and State: Keno,Oregon(undersnow)
Message: Hello Everyone, We are home, safe and sound. We had a great Thanksgiving with our family, and a FUN time with the "gang" at Bucco de Peppos while we were there. So good seeing Rick & Linda Jones Reynolds, Loretta Morelli Cuiper (we missed you Larry), Ann & Dan Dye, Karen & Bob Fraser, my Good Buddie Tonya Hobson Braham & husband Steve, Janet & you, JOHN .....and meeting Jim and Debby Sloey. We came home to Winter Wonderland ... LOTS of snow here. Grappa Man had to shovel the walk so we could get to the door.(not his favorite thing to do) Our good friends (JoAnn Collins Ramsay(c/o 62) & husband George) had a roaring fire going for us so the house was cozy. Yes, life is GOOD ! I think I recognize some of the people in the 55 class picture ....Row 1 ...#7, is that our own Robin Hood? And # 9 looks like a friend of my brothers, Joe Gay. Then, down on row 4, #4 .. is that a Wilson? Brian maybe? Oh, I'm probably wrong.....
Hey Cheryl, I think you got two of the four I can name. Anyone else want to take a crack at the picture?
Name: Keith D. Jones () on Monday, November 26, 2001 at 08:13:45
City and State: Honolulu, HI
Message: I remember my mom always telling me I had a Champagne taste with a beer income. That is still true today except I think now I have a real good wine income with more of a good protein drink taste.
Name: Dewey () on Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 21:23:44
Message: Nice new look John
Name: Alan Nelson () on Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 20:41:12
City and State: Parker, Az
Message: Hope that everyone had a pleasant Thanksgiving, and their fill of turkey and all the trimmings. I just got one question. How old do you have to be before you don't have to sit at the "Kiddie Table"?
I would've sat there Thursday, but it was full.
Name: Sherry Wingo () on Sunday, November 25, 2001 at 19:26:19
City and State: Haw. Ca.
Message: This is Doug Wingo, Sherry's husband. I remember the Cuban Missile Crisis well. Right after my Marine Corps boot camp, we were put on tranport planes and landed in Florida. We had no idea what was going on, they don't give you any time to watch T.V. in basic. We hit the beach at the Bay of Pigs and dug in for two days. It wasn't until I got back that I heard the news. I'm very glad that they didn't tell us!
Name: John Baker () on Thursday, November 22, 2001 at 10:30:14
City and State: Lomita
Message:Here's a 7th grade Hawthorne Intermediate School class pic from 1955. There're at least two or three in this picture that I recognize. How many can you get? A few of you aren't eligible to answer. You know who you are.
Thanks to Norv Vorhis HHS 59 for the picture.
Name: Sharon Branigan () on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 16:51:17
City and State: Oz
Message: Hey Mike Castro! Yes, Michelle's laugh is still sensational; I don't know if I'd liken it to a hen's cackle but it certainly is inspiring. She quacks me up! I don't remember the Cuban Missile Crisis but I vividly recall JFK's funeral on the b&w TV, my mom crying buckets. She's still a democrat to the bones but we have all forgiven her. Someone complained about today's kids; I have to say, MY child is respectful. I don't know what the rest of you did to make YOUR kids turn out that way! ;) "Just wait till you have kids of your own!!!"
Yes Sharon, Mikey is a very polite child and will make a wonderful GOP President in 2024.
Everyone have a wonderful Thanksgiving, and say a little prayer for the men and women who are spending their Thanksgiving, trying to flush that NO GOOD SOB OUT OF HIS HOLE.
I LOVE YOU GUYS MAAANN!!!!!
Name: John Baker () on Tuesday, November 20, 2001 at 12:43:14
City and State: Lomita,CA
Message:Thanks to Linda and Rick Reynolds, Tonya and Steve Braham, Loretta Cuiper, Bob and Karen Fraser, Lisa Nicocia, Dan and Ann Dye, and Jim and Debby Sloey for showing up for John and Cheryl Nicocia night on Saturday night. Janet and I had a great time with you guys, here (we always do), and for dinner at Bucca de Peppo's. Any excuse to get HHSers together.